Matrix technical problems

I love the movie, i was just wondering what are the technical errors made in it? i found a few… but nothing huge.

k, i guess i’ll have to mention one i saw, the agent mentions that the matrix was set up to be the time of man’s greatest point in history. What happens in the matrix in a hundred years from then when AI takes over? is there a matrix in the matrix and does the thing just simply spiral around and around?

I would guess that the Matrix gets “rebooted” and all the humans who “live” within it get their minds erased and start over from day one. Tabula rasa.

If it’s powerful enough to create lives and memories for everyone in there, it can just as easily take them away.

My guess would be that The AI in the Matrix monitor the progress of research in to Aftificial Intelligence (and other sciences as well) to keep the humans at the same level of technical ability.
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Well, the whole point of the Matrix being a system to farm humans for energy seems deeply flawed. Humans use more energy than they produce.

Also, the bit about needing a physical landline to dial out was weird. If there is no spoon, there’s also no phone, no landline, no wiring. That was part of my idea on how Neo was going to get out at the end–he was just going to say, “You know, I think I’ll be leaving now,” and just log off.

It’s a little more complex than that–they didn’t just stay at the 1999 tech level. They still thought it was 1999. After at least a hundred years, which makes the Oracle darned old.

I never really got this part either. and also If they knew the Matrix wasnt real, and they had special abilitys Because of this knowledge, then how could anything stop them? I know I can dodge bullets at the speed of sound but this brick wall is gong to keep me from getting away. WTF??!!?
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The first time I saw this movie I fell asleep, and fought through the whole thing trying to stay awake, catching only bits and pieces. when I got home my wife asked me what it was about. As I blabbered incoherantly, I came to the part when Neo goes to see the oracle and said “then he has to go see this black chick named the oraface”.I thought my friend that went with me would never stop laughing he just sat there on the floor rolling.
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I disagree. The spoon is a projection, a creation of the Matrix that simulates reality; the landline is the Matrix hardware itself. The reason the Nebuchadnezzar is floating around the old sewers is to find points to physically tap into the Matrix. It is through that physical connection that the rebels are able to project themselves into Matrix reality. They get in via the landline, do their thing, and then get out the way they came in. If the physical connection is broken, they’re trapped.

YES. I liked the movie, but that concept is absolutely stupid.

Also, the idea that it was the humans who “burned the sky” or whatever to deprive the machines of solar power. It would obviously inconvenience humans much more than machines to cut off sunlight.

You can find a comprehensive list of bloopers at the [URL=http://us.imdb.com/Goofs?0133093]Internet Movie Database*. Nitpickers.com also has an extensive list – indeed, it’s one of their Top Ten Nitpicked movies. The Matrix has 390 submitted; only Titanic has more.

Which goes to show that a good movie can transcend plot-holes or other inconsistencies.

That IMDB goof page is here.

2nd-most nitpicked? It always seems to be the sci-fi/FX movies that get nitpicked the most. No one says “There’s no way a hooker and millionaire hook up”. I guess the ID4-Star Wars-Godzilla movies generate the audience that would care to keep track of such things?

I take everything Morpheus said in the movie with a grain of salt. Although he is presented as a font of wisdom, it is entirely possible that all he is repeating are urban legends, folklore, propaganda, and hearsay. In fact, given the central themes of the movie (things are not as they seem, do not trust authority, don’t believe everything you’re told) it seems likely that Morpheus is wrong, over-simplifying, or outright lying.

My pet theory on the “human harvesting” is that the AIs don’t need bio-electric energy, they need human creativity. The AIs are computer programs, and are unable to innovate or change: they can’t “rise above” their programming.

It’s true that humans require more energy to run than they produce, but the same could be said about all life-forms. Humans, though, still get their energy from ingesting other organisms, a patently inefficient means of powering ourselves. Humans, I heard, are approximately 30% efficient as engines. On the other hand, depending on how far technology has advanced by the late 21st century, solar panels will be maybe 25% efficient?

Not really a technical problem, but was anyone else bothered by the idea of an “oracle”? It just seems like a grab bag for whatever information they want to put in, it is also undeveloped and unexplained.

An idea though, if the Matrix knew what city they had hacked into and where they were approximately, why send some agents? If it is so critical to destroy them, if it means the end of their world if they don’t, why not resort to thermonuclear weapons? Try and dodge a nuclear blast, neo.

Yes, humans use more energy than they produce, but the energy humans consume isn’t in a form that would readily benefit machines.

I mean, that’s why we eat plants instead of directly harvesting sunlight, eh? I thought that was obvious… :slight_smile:

Um… and how do plants grow? Yeah, that’s what I thought…

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O Captain, my Captain, you have the logic of k’narf.

The physical landlines around the Neb were never cut, just the ones inside the Matrix itself. There’s even a scene showing it. So, they weren’t really cutting anything but a computer projection of a hardline, and why are we debating this anyway? Is anything in the Matrix remotely like anything in real life?

Who’s to say they weren’t cutting a computer projection of something real? After all, killing a computer projection of somebody in the Matrix kills the individual, doesn’t it? The thing that was cut may have been not just a projection, but an overlay – the Matrix representation of where the actual harware for that region was connected.

We’re debating it, as Mallory said, “because it is there.”

As to my logic skills: I’m a science fiction/fantasy/space opera fan, and a gamer to boot. When you grow up trying to figure out how the Kessel Run can be completed in twelve parsecs, it leads to the ability to justify anything you want. :wink:

  • Using people as energy is silly. To work, the scheme described in the movie would require getting more energy out of a system than was put in. (ie, violating the laws of thermodynamics)

  • Even if humans could be used for body heat, why not clone them without brains or something?

  • Remember when Trinity says “Dodge this”? The agent, which can move faster than a speeding bullet, could have easily moved out of the way before she finished her sentence.

  • The telephones act as a doorway out of the matrix, yet they are no more real than the spoon (or anything else in the matrix).

peace,

j