Matt Walsh: Climate alarmists, I can’t take you seriously until you start living like the Amish

An excellent rant from Matt Walsh on the obvious fraudulence of the climate change industry.

Matt Walsh: Climate alarmists, I can’t take you seriously until you start living like the Amish

He’s right, you know. Among the most telling signs this whole movement is a charade is that those who are behind it don’t behave at all as if they believe it.

From the sweet aroma of freshly baked apple pie to the succulent flavors of a homemade beef stew, there is something for everyone when it comes to home-style Amish recipes.

This is stupid.

I could go in more depth as to why, but I’m not gonna. This is just stupid.

Climate change skeptics: I can’t take you seriously until you stop using every logical fallacy in the book to defend your so-called ‘skepticism’ :rolleyes: :dubious:

Amish Butter:

  1. Churn butter.

There’s a popular perception, shaped my shoddy media portrayal, that individual action is the key to mitigating pretty much any social justice harm. This generally isn’t true for most things for the simple fact that individual action generally has very limited spread. Instead, policy changes are what drive large scale change.

Take plastic bags for example, decades of “reduce, reuse, recycle” have barely budged people’s plastic bag usage because only a small percentage of people is this one of the top most important things in their life. But a simple 5c bag tax drops usage by over 30% because now it affects everyone.

Smart thinking environmentalists are driving impact through policy change like a carbon tax. The benefit of individual action in this scheme is to normalize environmental behaviors and make policy change more politically feasible.

So Matt Walsh has a poor understanding of the process by which political change happens and uses that poor understanding to create a straw man.

What logical fallacies would these be, Didactylos?

Being skeptical of a claim when said claimants don’t behave as if they believe it is in no way logically fallacious. It’s common sense.

What would be the point? If we all lived like the Amish we may avert the dangers of climate change, but we’d just be swapping them for the dangers of living in a pre-industrial society (no modern medicine, no decent transport infrastructure, no effective national defence etc…) so it wouldn’t actually solve anything.

It’s a stupid idea, and Matt Walsh is probably quite a stupid person.

I’ll give you this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma

but generally

Addressed in Shalmanese’s post above. It’s like claiming we can reduce homelessness if everyone who cared about the subject gave any homeless person they saw $10. It wouldn’t remotely solve anything.

On the one side we’ve got 97% of the world’s climate scientists who have come to the same conclusion with a very high degree of certainty and great piles of data. On the other we have Matt Walsh’s inability to understand the fundamental issue at hand and your “common sense”. I know which side I’m sticking with.

I refuse to accept that pro-lifers believe what they say they believe until they start killing abortionists and blowing up clinics en masse. Anything less is just rank hypocrisy.

Wow. The OP isn’t even trying to hide the trolling.

I love the following food items, chosen at random:

Quality camembert

Duvel beer

Capicola

That special Spanish ham

Pork belly

High quality tomatoes

Whole milk

Fresh orange juice

I am reminded of a thread where someone made the excellent and obvious point that millions of gallons of water could be saved if every home had a small stand-up urinal, as found in all the best public lavatories.

Someone — drearily — answered that there was nothing to stop the suggester from installing one in his own house.

The problem with the guy linked in the OP is he’s insisting that all the “climate alarmists” are equally extreme. They aren’t. The majority are not claiming humanity is going to go extinct over global climate change.

Additionally, he throws out stuff like:

Yes, some people claimed that would happen if nothing was done to avert it The “prophecy” was not intended to be an absolute “millions die no matter what!”

In addition, poverty.com claims 21,000 people a day die of either hunger or hunger-related causes, which works out to about 7.5 million a year, or around 360 million since the first Earth Day (actually more, because there have been some epic famines over that time period in various locations, and these days we’re doing a better job feeding people, but this is a quick and dirty calculation). So, in fact, the “alarmists” were correct - hundreds of millions HAVE died from lack of food over the past 4-5 decades. It’s just that, against the backdrop of the entire human population, and because it happened over time instead of all at once, it’s gotten sort of lost in the background. And the former “alarmists” would also argue that without their raising awareness and lobbying for change the death toll would have been higher.

The problem is this guy is demanding a level of accuracy in predicting the future that just doesn’t exist.

The message itself implicitly proposes a classic “either / or” logical fallacy: If we don’t use fossil fuels, then society will collapse and we will all have a lifestyle no better than that of early hominids.:rolleyes:

No, we don’t have to live as the Amish in order to want a cleaner environment. It’s possible to have BOTH a modern lifestyle and an environment that remains productive. I know people like you don’t believe in history and archeology, but the historical record shows that civilizations die out completely because of climate change.

He actually has a point, but it’s:

A: A very weak one, ignoring human nature and the existence of an objective reality unrelated to human fallibility.

B: Not honest since he’s lying. There are plenty of climate change proponents who limit their climate impact as much as any Amish even if most of us fail, and he’s not taking those seriously either.

I just realized, Cameron is an undergraduate. That means not only is the semester over but he’s off for the summer.

Just to be clear, this isn’t the comedian Matt Walsh from the Upright Citizens Brigade, this is pandering ultra right douchebag Matt Walsh.

Tell me, do you have to believe in electrons for your lights to work?