Can anyone identify the 9 pro-torture US Senators who voted against the McCain amendment?
How can they even think Torture could be an option?
I think this is one more case where McCain is 100% right.
When an administration ignores what is right, it is the responsibility of everyone to rein them back in. The Bush/Cheney Admin is dragging the US down into the mud. The reason for the no torture bill should be self-evident.
Jim.
Although I find the spirit of McCain’s strategy satisfying I am disturbed that our system is so easily abused. Why is it still like this? If you want to spend 10 million studying cow farts you should have to let it pass or fail on its own merits, not letting it sail under the radar under some 300 page bill that no one is going to read.
Sure, no one ever looks at the nation’s yearly defense budget. That’s why we’re over a month into fiscal 2006, and they haven’t bothered to finish it yet, because no one cares.
The amendment and whether or not it should be added to the bill was debated on the merit and passed on that basis wasn’t it?
One thing that really bothers me is that we have a generation of young people who think that it is SOP to give public consideration to the idea. They will never have the genuine pride of believing we are “the good guys” and not just “the big guys.”
Oops. Forgot to answer the OP’s questions.
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Yes, I think John McCain’s idea is a good one. He won’t have to do it for long.
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The question of torture will continue to hurt Bush the more that it is talked about. The more that Americans have to face the realities of torture, the more they will back down from being bullies about it.
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If we are incapable of functioning without torture, I would want to hear that from both political parties before deciding what to do next.
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As you might gather from all I have said, I am gobsmacked that we have come to this in America. Never would I have thought it a possibility even five years ago.
I remember well being in our golf clubhouse right after the taking of Baghdad and somebody said words to the effect of - Well, that’s over and those peaceniks said we couldn’t do it. And just look where we are now. Actually debating whether or no torture should be used with supposedly sober people excusing it. And it’s going on now probably with secret detention facilities, and the consideration of turning over certain prisoners to presumably friendly countries where torture is routine and on and on …
A true conservative would not only recognize, but promote, the idea that the entire reason for the Constitution is specifically to restrict the powers the government can use, and that the Constitution and founding fathers recognized that the government would always say that special circumstances required exceptions to be made.
Sailboat
I am unable to find the exact language, however, there is this:
I have to assume that the Army Field Manual has some guidelines in it.
Yes, he has to have had a blowjob, too.
Thank you! My google skills are below abysmal this morning.
Maybe you need an edjimacashion.
http://www.eagleton.rutgers.edu/e-gov/e-politicalarchive-Clintonimpeach.htm
The point is that yes, Congress indeed can impeach for any damn reason it wants to.
You have to love the FMs. Great books, and many of them are well worth reading for civilians, for enjoyment or for utility… Survival, for example, has taught me much about the woods I live in and near.
The point is this isn’t My Uninformed Opinion board. That is two doors down on the left.
AFAIKnow, you want room 12A, Just along the corridor.