Just popped into my head when I was thinking about time zones. If Oklahoma is on Central time, it will be 5 am my time.
It’s scheduled for 8AM EST.
It’ll be 7AM here in Oklahoma.
It’s Terra Haute Ind. time zone you need to be aware of.
Hope this is not too much of a thread hijack (and maybe it’s a GQ kind of thing), but is the closed circuit viewing of the execution really “closed” in the sense that nobody else will be able to access this? (And, no…I have no desire to see this)…
Will this thing be uploaded to some web site by Tuesday?
That’s what the Feds are trying to prevent, but don’t be surpised if a copy of the whole event surfaces somewhere.
beagledave it all depends. Most likely the answer is “no” as, from what I understand, the whole thing’s going to be encrypted and will only be decripted at the site where the viewing is going to be held. Of course, someone who is dishonest at the site of the execution could tap into the feed before its encrypted and dub off a copy to post later. Or someone might be able to intercept the encrypted transmission and decrypt it. In all truth, I think that no one’s going to be able to do either of those things security will be tight and heavy around everything and the penalties will no doubt be harsh (and repeatedly drummed into the heads of the techs there), so unless someone comes up with large amounts of cash, it ain’t gonna be web fodder.
Thanks Tuckerfan…a quick google look-see at this kind of thing seems to suggest that it would technically tough, if not impossible to hijack the feed.
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I heard about it on tv…and it gave me chills. I mean, I think McVeigh is a total monster…but to be counting down until his death? It’s just too macabre for me.
Not me. Although I have no personal investment in the event, I am glad to know that at least one scumbag will be dealt with properly. It won’t take a few years before he dies in prison, like Dahmer; he won’t be left to grow more twisted, on the taxpayer’s dime, like Manson or Kazcyinski; and he won’t get the last word by doing it himself, like Koresh.
I know that his death won’t bring anyone back. But right now, he must be experiencing the worst kind of fear. And in a few hours, the worst minute of his life will also be the last: knowing that he will die, knowing there’s no way out, and not knowing what, if anything, comes afterwards.
Rilch: I hate to burst the old bubble there, but has been stated zillions of times today, he’s prepared himself well for this. He’s viewing it as a natural part of his actions, and is ready.
Here’s some things that just hit me and maybe somebody’ll know the answer. If the video does manage to make it to the web, whomever’s responsible is going to get nailed by the Feds pretty hard, but the video will be evidence in the court case, so won’t that make it public record? (And if it does get out, you can bet every network news program will be airing clips of it ad nausem.)
Secondly, I wonder if any of the nutbags out there are planning on mounting a “rescue” attempt? (Not that they have a chance in hell of succeeding, but that’s never stopped people from trying.)
He says. Ever see Angels With Dirty Faces?
7:14 A.M. CST today. It’s official.
Too bad they couldn’t do it 167 more times.
They did it. A while ago.
It’s now 10:09 PM (tomorrow for most of you) here in Korea…
Huh.
I couldn’t agree more, rastahomie.
What a freaking bastard.
Good riddance.
On one level, I think that he deserved to die. After the pain he caused his victims, the callous selection of his target, death is a just punishment. Right?
Or is that too easy? The purpose of our justice system cannot be vengeance. If it’s verdict comes as a sort of revenge to some, than so be it. Revenge is too biased, too emotional, and is rarely, in fact, just. Justice can be seen as tempered vengeance, restrained anger.
He should still die, simply because he is too dangerous to society at large to remain alive. He hates the government too much. If given the opportunity, I think he would kill again. While his death may bring some measure of closure to the pain of some, the justice system should not be thought of as avenging the dead so much as protecting the living.
Are any of you actually thinking this thing through?!
Let’s start with the basics. Why did McVeigh bomb the Murrah Building in the first place? As an answer to the way the U.S. government handled the situations at Waca and Ruby Ridge. In his mind, he was at war with the government and this was a retaliatory strike.
By executing him, the government has cemented in the minds of others like McVeigh (albeit wrongly - very wrongly) that there is indeed a war being conducted between the Feds and the population as a whole. McVeigh’s execution is an invitation to more terrorist acts on U.S. soil by these right-wing militia freaks. They’ve made him a martyr to his movement.
McVeigh is a monster, no question. But the only fate worthy of justice would have been to let his punk ass rot in jail for the rest of his life while succeeding generations forgot he ever existed. Now that he is dead, his memory will burn brighter and longer in the minds of those who will seek vengeance for it.
This is wildy, amazingly creepy.
It will no doubt help to make him a hero among the right wing militant folk that will almost inevitably continue the cycle of domestic terrorism. Yikes.
That thing, it’s really scary, because while you read it, you feel like he’s heroic too. That’s what really freaked me out.
Lucky Charms
Lucky Charms: That would be Invictus, by William Earnest Henley
Johnyy L.A. - just wanted to say your Doyle quote is eerily appropriate for this thread.