Meet Bernie Sanders

OK, so we’ll go into detail on every chemical used in the fertilizers on organic food, too, being sure to mark all the ones known to be carcinogenic and/or explosive.

Come on.

People should be able to know what their food is, what’s in it, where it comes from, how it’s made. The organic-certification label is a known standard; anyone who’s interested can look up the details. But without a GMO labeling standard, there is no way people can distinguish the traditional species from their engineered versions.

What, exactly, is the problem with requiring such a standard in labeling, along with all the others already in use?

Screw Bolshevik Bernie, who is bad for America and her allies around the world. Those who live in nations that are our allies know it.

Please take this hijack to the new GD thread on why GMO labeling is a good idea:

Well, living way on the other side of the world, I’m sure they would know…better? :confused:

More seriously, of course people in foreign countries are more likely to say they prefer Hillary Clinton; they already know her. What’s interesting is how many people in Western Europe actually recommend Bernie Sanders as “the sane one.”

(And that’s before you get into leftist criticism of Sanders as giving insufficient attention to party-building and voter education, and therefore less worthy of political respect than a radical democrat like Jeremy Corbyn.)

And I think it is a good idea for non-ideological public health reasons; it’s easier to identify probable allergens in GM-introduced proteins if we know where they are.

(Posters getting on Bernie’s case over asking for labeling just show how knee-jerk, fanatical, and hateful the pro-GMO side can appear, even as they accuse anti-GMO protestors of being fanatical or superstitious. Relax, guys.)

Australia, the UK, Germany and France are also your allies and support for Sanders is very strong in those countries.

I care about allies who don’t cower to radical Islamic terror, not ones in decline due to Islamization. Israel isn’t letting millions of anti-American immigrants join their electorates like the Europeons are.

Australia has been the US strongest ally since world war II. We sent troops to every single war you fought in, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, Australia was there. Did Israel send troops to any of those? Nope.

And Australia has single payer healthcare, and we like Bernie. Deal with it.

Of course its objectionable. The entire point behind trying to label GMO products is to make people think there is something wrong with it. If it was merely a device to let people who didn’t want to eat GMO products avoid GMO products, they could use labeling saying that it was NOT GMO, like they do with organic foods.

GMO labelling is merely anti-science fearmongering.

Its all an attack on science by the hysteria driven anti-science faction on the left (at least the anti-science folks on the right are driven by plain old cardinal sins (greed and sloth), the ones on the right are driven by fear. Fear leads to anger and anger leads to hate and hate leads to suffering.

And that is not what is driving the label GMO movement.

Do we require non-organic foods to be labeled as non-organic?

Of course not.

is it possible to label non-GMO foods as non-GMO, Of course it is. in fact I recently bought a loaf of bread that said non-GMO in big green letter. Why isn’t that enough? Why do we want to force the labeling of GMO corn products and leave the non-gmo corn products alone when the vast majority of corn products are made with GMO corn?

I think a fanatical aversion to anti-science fearmongering is justified. I think anti-science fearmongering itself is not.

Can we end this idiotic hijack over GMO labelling and get back to discussing Bernie Sanders.

I’d like an explanation for this. What are you talking about Will?

Can you provide a reputable link?

During the bombing campaign in Yugoslavia, in 1999, Sanders’s office in Burlington was occupied by people demanding an end to the bombing. Sanders was not there. One of the office workers called the police and 15 protesters were arrested for trespassing.
The group arrested claims that Sanders’s absence was a ploy and that he was responsible for the arrests.

Ah, I see. Getting arrested for trespassing is a little different from getting arrested for being anti-war protesters.

Not if you are occupying an office to protest a war. :stuck_out_tongue:

In the sense that arresting members of the IRA following a pub bombing is "jailing Irish activists opposing the British presence in Northern Ireland.

Bernie’s chief of staff enforced trespassing laws?

Well, I’m obviously bound to vote for the candidate who is against private property, then! Who is that?

OK.

How about his endorsement of pseudo-science:

The medical community has raised serious health concerns about genetically engineered food.

Where I feel the burn most strongly, and not in a good way, is in Sanders’s implicit attempt to undo China’s dramatic standard of living increase, from a base of horrifying poverty – an increase obtained by joining the world economy. Here’s the man’s plan:

How many ten of millions of middle income Asian jobs (and no, they don’t make 25 cents an hour) would be destroyed while supposedly creating those million American jobs? I say supposedly because you don’t create a lot of jobs during trade wars. Just the opposite.

Bernie’s China taxes would create a big reason for China to engage not just in trade war against us, but also just plain war. Bernie’s self-image is as a man of peace, but as his old role model Leon Trotsky used to say, “You may not be interested in war, but war is interested in you.”* Rather than joining Trump in blaming China for our ills, Bernie should be dismissing beggar-thy-neighbor policies and instead worry about this:

Can the U.S. and China avoid war? History says otherwise

I changed my registration from Republican to Democratic today, in part to vote against Sanders.


  • There’s dispute over whether this is a correct translation from the Russian. If he didn’t say it, IMHO, he should have.