Lucky you; this type of ranting rage isn’t as rare as you seem to think. Alcohol can fuel it, certainly.
Those of you who think she is playing it some kind of cool don’t realize that shouting back at someone like this doesn’t work at all. You learn that after a while.
I have dealt with a psychopath and yes, it really is just like that. Perfectly normal, charming, wonderful guy, to the point that folks who have been his close friends for ten years think I am the one who is “off.” I wish like hell I’d recorded him, she is very smart.
And as for the “mechanical” or “scripted” sound of her, this really is the way you get to be after a while. You become so accustomed to “handling” their outbursts, and being the voice of reason, and calming them down. You just do the best you can to keep them within certain bounds until the run out of steam. It’s much like a Mother talking a toddler through a tantrum. “Yes dear, it’s all right. No, you can’t have a cookie, but Mommy still loves you. No Darling, no cookies for breakfast. . .”
Since both parties are fertile, are there any religious ramifications to a devout and in fact self identified fanatically conservative Catholic doing blowjobs since they’re non procreative?
“Bitch set me up!”
Ooop! Wrong psychopath.
Well there is the notion that Every Sperm is Sacred
It’s not even the level of rage that is killing me; it’s the sheer crazy. The guy panted and roared, and said some straight up weird shit, like declaring an official Blowjob Schedule. I’ve been mad about break ups to the point of inability to maintain any calm, have yelled, stated I hated the person, [fill in stuff typical of a beyond-angry gal with self-control issues here], but this man is knee-deep in pure lunacy.
Pant, rage, roar I own you! You don’t get to see my dentist! You deviated from the Blowjob Schedule! You deserve to be raped! I’m so nice you! Pant, raaaaage, roar
Yeah, dude, that’s just not normal. What the hell is that guy on?
In looking at the wiki he’s been a functional alcoholic pretty much all his adult life. Maybe whatever it is in your brain that keeps your emotionally centered finally just burned out. Something I didn’t pick up on until another poster brought it up is that regardless of how scary his rant is, he does sound quite literally exactly like a frustrated child throwing a temper tantrum. Maybe he’s regressing mentally.
Anyone who thinks these tapes are unbelievable is more than welcome to peruse my own collection of literally HOURS of insane ranting by my ex–which include quite a lot of my own perfectly calm and collected responses, up to the point where I figured out there’s no point in trying to talk to someone who behaves like that. The recordings are videos made with a small point and shoot camera set fully in view of the ex with the little red light blinking, clearly indicating that the camera was live and recording, and during many of them I was actually wearing headphones with loud music playing so I couldn’t hear the actual viciousness emanating from his direction.
I can tell you right now that a couple of times during Mel’s rants I had to make certain I hadn’t actually set one of my vids playing, because some of his wording and insults are identical to what my ex would spew out. I have recordings of threats of physical violence toward me; admissions of physical violence committed on me; threats against my children, friends and other family members and possibly threats against the pets as well–you must excuse me, because some of it I’ve never actually listened to. The camera will record about an hour before the battery gives up, and I have several hour long recordings in which he didn’t shut up for more than about ten to twenty seconds at any time during the recording.
Why did I make them? Partly to reassure myself that I’m not crazy, that he really did say and do all that shit. Partly because I feared to turn up dead somewhere and thought maybe someone might find those recordings on my computer and bring the fucker to justice. Partly as insurance against some time in the future when my own overactive forgiveness mode might kick in and loneliness might tempt me to get back in contact with him “because he might have changed.” Mel is by no means unusual, or exceptionally violent in his rages–he’s pretty much a garden variety domestic abuser who happens to be famous and whose victim had the smarts to record his shit–domestic abusers tend to be the biggest chickenshits you can imagine with anyone who isn’t their victim and they will lie and pretend everything is just hunky dory because part of their pattern is to isolate the victim and convince her NOBODY would ever believe that nice old Bob could ever do anything so fucking twisted, crazy and out there as the shit he says and does on a regular basis. The entitlement, twisted logic, threats, belittlement, constant screaming, huffing and puffing, insanely disgusting insults–all of it is all too common, to the point of it being pretty much run of the mill to this particular DV survivor. I reacted to it on a visceral level, but intellectually analyzed it’s pretty much textbook DV rant. I bet you can find something just as gross if not worse going on right now within a mile or two radius of you.
And, quite frankly, I hope that poor woman gets a handsome settlement and takes her daughter back to Russia far out of reach of old Mel there, because after what she’s put up with no amount of money is enough of a payoff for what she’s endured–you can take that to the fucking bank. And no child should have to be raised by a shitfaced cunt like old Mel there, especially not a girl.
Shit, I’ve been a functioning alcoholic most my adult life. Am I going to declare my dentist off limits at my next breakup? Am I going to tell him I hope he dies because he didn’t put his mouth on my genitalia when he was scheduled to do so? I may yell, I may cry (I’ve done it before), but a lot of the craziness he said is beyond dumb. He does sound *exactly *like a three year old with a sex drive and a raspy voice. Something to look forward to!
From Merrill Joan Gerber’s short story about an emotional abuser, “I Don’t Believe This,” which I just happen to read last night (published in 1985).
Don’t yell or cry. I would never deviate from your schedule MOL.
Mel threatened to club her and then bury her in the garden and burn down the house with her AND the kid in it because of some oral he thought he deserved? He popped her in the mouth twice-- WHILE SHE HELD HIS CHILD–because he didn’t get his regularly scheduled bj? And then denied her his dentist because. . . of. . . a damned blow job? Really?
And yet reasonable people think she deserved it because she’s a gold digger?
If I were her, I’d see my own dentist all right. Have my teeth filed down to points and give Mel the blow job he really he deserves. If I’m gonna get popped in the mouth by some bastard with entitlement issues, it’ll be for a very good reason.
Mel’s father is 92 but still makes the occasional public appearance, usually in support of Holocaust denial or how Jews ruined the Vatican. It’s about time for him to pop in for a cameo just to make the story a bit more bizarre.
Speaking only for myself and as somebody who has called her a gold digger (still my view point), it’s two separate observations: he’s a psycho and she’s a gold digger.
I think she went after a guy she knew had issues because he was super rich. I think she knew he was crazy but didn’t realize he is C-R-A-Z-Y (i.e. not eccentric, not a spoiled star with an anger management problem, but bonafide “would be in a straight jacket in a locked ward or else standing outside a Waffle House blathering about how he can’t go home because there are Jews in his shampoo bottle” psychotic and violent with it- essentially the South Park version of himself. I don’t think she caused him to be crazy or that she or anybody else deserves to be beaten by a lover, but I have a lot less sympathy for her than I would have for his first wife if it came to light she was abused since she married him 1) not for his money and 2) before his nuttiness was a matter of public record.
So I think she’s a gold digger in that I think the fact he’s a mega-rich superstar won her over more than his significantly faded looks or his not exactly famous off-camera charm. I don’t think she deserves getting beaten and screamed at- I think she got in way over her head- and I think he needs to be put to sleep.
“Deserves got nothing to do with it.”
He is a violent, racist piece of shit that hit a defenseless woman and obviously hates Jews and racial minorities.
She has children with famous, wealthy married men, and then lives off of the child support that results.
Bottom Line—Mel Gibson is human feces, a hateful piece of garbage, but that dosen’t make his girlfriend some sort of role model or feminist hero, but it will probably make her very, very wealthy…
I don’t get all this talk about how she didn’t do anything when he hit her. First of all, there are plenty of victims of domestic abuse who don’t immediately go to the police for a whole litany of reasons; it’s silly to say that her actions immediately following the incident are proof that she’s a gold digger, when plenty of “normal” women married to “normal” men do the same thing. Secondly, she got a restraining order- she did go to the police. For cryin’ out loud.
Welcome to the world of the domestic abuse victim–no matter what you do or don’t do, there will ALWAYS be some helpful asshole who’ll explain your error to you along with a heapin’ helpin’ of platitudes, some tongue clucking and a smugly superior look that lets you know how YOU’RE the only stupid one in the world and THEY would NEVER allow such things to happen to THEM. And people wonder why victims don’t speak out more often. :rolleyes:
No shit. I love the heaping piles of victim blaming in this thread. Sure, the woman got involved with a married man- plenty of people do. No one is playing her as a saint, but that hardly means she’s any of the shitty things being thrown around here (without real evidence, I might add).
If she is a gold-digger, then he must have known that and, as the saying goes, ‘Got the relationship he deserved’. ‘Deserved’ I am using in a way denoting that we subconsciously tend to choose people we think we deserve. If he was as great as he acts like he thinks he is, he would have had every opportunity to get into a real relationship. He doesn’t, 'cause he knows he doesn’t deserve it.
/2 coppers
And no, I’m not listening to the tapes. I already know how psycho people can be; it’s one less memory I want bouncing around in my head when I’m 90 and all the rest of the good stuff is fading away. 
What does “gold digger” even mean? What is that she supposedly did to him? Is there an implication that she deceived him somehow, or cheated him or scammed him?
Is it really so hard to believe a young Russion girl could simply be naive and think she’s getting swept into a fairy tale lifestyle with a movie star? Is there really no other possibility than that she’s a scheming con artist of some sort?
Both she and radaronline are denying that she’s the one who leaked the tapes, by the way, so accusations in that direction are groundless.
I don’t understand why people are working so hard to find some way to blame and smear the victim here? Why can’t she just be accepted as a victim without the baseless insinuations and judgemental clucking?
the misogyny on this board never ceases to astonish me.