See posts 9, 17, 24, 25, 36, and 37.
Oh, come on, you glum cunt!* He looks fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine.
*My new favorite Mel Gibson quote
Mel Gibson is finished. He makes Woody Allen look like a harmless person.
There are new photos of his wife (after he beat her up) that will rock the world.
I know you’re waiting for a link. It’s out there. You guys are smart. Look it up.
Fuck Mel Gibson. His history of racism and homophobia is well documented.
Now add wife beater to his resume.
You mean his girlfriend; no one has said anything about him beating his wife, in fact she’s gone on record saying he never showed any anger toward her.
And one more thing. Woody Allen defended himself in public and in court. He never let up.
Mel Gibson has offered no defense or denial of anything. In fact, I read he was quiting show biz and going back to Australia to live on a ranch and try to make amends to his first wife and kids.
apples and oranges.
In Steve Martin voice - EXCUSE ME. Add girlfriend beater to his resume.
Damn straight! I’m not going to stand her and let you tarnish the good name of Mel Gibson by calling him something completely untrue!
If you’re attempting to be funny, I fail to see the humor.
Thanks, TWDuke! Sorry for being so dense. :smack:
Dio, this isn’t a thread to rehash the Mel saga and your personal opinions about his behavior. There is another thread for that, which you have participated in. Let’s keep this one to comparing Mel’s ability to come back vs. the comeback of Woody Allen. Thanks.
As far as Woody Allen goes, I’m a bit amazed at some of the answers in this thread regarding his somewhat odd behavior, and therefore this shouldn’t have been so surprising.
Also, the idea that she pursued him and was the aggressor seems to be an urban legend. I’m not saying it’s not true, I just find it hard to believe.
The fact that he was sleeping with and then married his girlfriend’s daughter goes over the line for me.
I thought it did for many people. At the time, I remember it being a big scandal. But obviously, it didn’t ruin his career. Depending on who you talk to, it hardly made a dent.
The idea that he’s always been odd, weird, or whatever, doesn’t validate the behavior. It’s simply wrong. Not legally, of course, but certainly it doesn’t pass any smell test for normal, acceptable, social behavior.
Yeah, but it’s not about validating his actions. It’s about whether or not people’s perceptions of him were shattered. In Woody’s case, they weren’t, because no one thought he was wholesome or even especially stable, so they didn’t have to reassess how they saw him.
Here’s another example: Paul Reubens. Funnily enough, he’d already ditched the Pee-Wee persona, and at the time of his arrest, was just lying low. (But not low enough, hurr hurr.) So it helps if public perception was formerly based on a completely made-up persona.
ETA: TWDuke, nice hair splitting. Some people think that phone call was verbal abuse. As such, they don’t think it’s okay, and if someone else does think the call was okay, one has to wonder what they think rises to the level of abuse.
Man, I bet you hate dead baby jokes, too.
The only answer I have to the OP is that I sincerely hope not. Gibson sucks.
It’s not hairsplitting to point out that your question was framed to exclude any middle ground. The fact that you are clearly capable of putting it in more moderate terms suggests that it was deliberately phrased as to put anyone who disagreed with it in the worst possible light.
It wasn’t my question; it was RealityChuck’s.
Sorry, Rilchiam, I realize now you didn’t ask the original question and it’s too late to edit. I still think “So verbal abuse of a child is OK in your book?” is a ridiculous question not formulated to elicit honest debate. No one has said verbal abuse is OK, and it’s impossible to answer yes without looking like an utter tool. I frankly can’t see how it’s hairsplitting to point that out.
ETA: All the more puzzling that you defend it.
Cite?
Wild Niggers. Not a good band name.
In the black remake of BILL & TED’S EXCELLENT ADVENTURE, it will be spelled
WYLD NYGGYRZ!
Maybe for gangster rappers.
What was horrible about Woody is that hr hid the relationship from Mia, yet left nude photos of Soon-Yi out when he knew Mia was coming over to his aparmtnet to pick up their son.He did not go to Mia and said"Look, I’m having an affair with your daughter."
He also filed for custody of their biological son and two adopted children, and ended up looking like a smuck in court.