But, set it to music, give it a good back beat, and you’ve got a hit.
Fred’s a fraud. He is the spokesman for the “Citizens Commission On Human Rights”(CCHR), an advocacy group established in 1969 by the Church of Scientology.
I think many of the componets of love are essential in promoting a healthy lifestyle and can go a long way toward warding off issues with depression that may worsen with time.
I see love as general attitude of patience, tolerance, acceptance, unselfishness etc. people tend to respond well to those who are in an up beat mood. How people respond to us promotes good feelings within us that I feel make us more productive, active, and just generaly more on top of our game.
I also believe that being happy and les stressed gives us an eleveated level of resistance but I doubt it will cure anything including severe mental illness.
It may cure a multitude of emotional based illnesses such as ulcers, chronic stomach pain, insomnia, excesive smoking or drinking, gambling etc. Many of thse can lead to other more serious illnesses.This proves that you aren’t loving us hard enough. Love us harder and you will heal our ignorance. Otherwise, if we get sick, it is all your fault.
How do they all pull that off, what with them all having schizophrenia?
This is of course not even close to an accurate description of the process.
Hail to pissy strawmen. Nobody’s arguing in favor of negativity. They’re arguing against a pollyanna attitude that insists happiness or love can solve everybody’s problems and suggests people deserve their own problems if they feel normal human emotions when something bad happens to them.
Some genius on Facebook forwarded one of those cheesy “share this and like it” things that stated people “choose” to be sad and that no one should ever be really sad if people just didn’t choose to be sad. Things like this make me want to vomit in the most violent manner possible. If mental illness isn’t bad enough to suffer, then you have the stigma of ignoramuses who think they are so smart and cute with their little sayings and beliefs that it’s just a matter of will power to get over those demons (even when the demons are in the form of hallucinations).
I didn’t view being on meds for the rest of my life as a bad thing either until I got severely depressed, while on meds, and getting hooked up with a lunatic psychiatrist. Off meds, I’m down to my fighting weight, look great, feel great, have no issues with my sexual ability, and I don’t have to go see some fool who’s telling me I might shoot up a kindergarten because that’s the diagnosis du jour and need to be on Abilify and Zoloft and Remeron and so many other wonderful, fat-causing drugs.
I don’t mean to sound aggressive. To each their own. I just think that there are non-medication options out there but the profession doesn’t want to pursue that. And that’s not right.
Loss of contact with reality. Here are a couple of discussions:
http://www.psych.theclinics.com/article/S0193-953X%2805%2970047-2/abstract
http://www.nami.org/template.cfm?section=First_Episode
Note that (1) the ‘characteristics of psychosis’, like hallucinations, are not psychosis: the thing is not the sum of it’s parts, (2) hallucinations are definitive of psychosis (by a narrow definition) only when they occour in the absence of insight , and (3) are not part of the person’s cultural group belief system or experience.
Although the auditory hallucinations where distressing to my friends, it was the fixed delusions derived from the hallucinations that were more distressing to their friends.
From talking about child-rearing and politics with other people, I’d say that fixed delusions are distressing even in the absense of hallucinations, schizophrenia, and psychosis.
It doesn’t help to say things like “you create your own reality” even though I have done so at times. People need to know more and see more of how that works in reality to take it seriously. People can get well and off meds. Affirmations can be a beginning.
Did you happen to see the post above yours?
While I am sorry about your bad experiences, I don’t think they prove this point. A bad therapist doesn’t tell us very much about the state of therapy. And I say that as someone who agrees with many of the general concerns that have been stated in this thread.
Something I firmly believe that may prove out in the future is that I feel science is doing their best to map out a very complex series of emotions and responses that trigger an equally complex combination of natural hormones and opiates.
It will likley take many years if even possible to map these things out. However as far as usefullness goes we allready have a pretty good understanding of cause an effect and the dynamics that lead up to the production of these chemicals. We know some people trigger off of inappropriate signals and others seem to lack the ability to trigger specific chemicals or at least useful amounts of them.
Real life conditions are hard to duplicate in controlled settings and I feel have not been as useful as some have hoped in identifying reactions, especially when more subtle stimuli are likley responsible for the way we chemicaly interpet situations.
I feel like if more effort were put into creating real life situations but with more predictable outcomes some behavioral modification might be possible.
Groups such as churches, clubs, cults, teams etc accomplish this to some degree. We may even experience this in some jobs. The basic human need for social acceptance and the establishment of ones own positive image of his or hers own identity can't be over stated.“Affirmations”? :dubious:
People who practice in their minds do much better than those who don’t.
After the Korean war we learned our prisoners were subjected to “brain washing.” They were tortured in many ways in order to get them to say bad things about the U.S. On some it worked and others not so well. The ones it didn’t work on used their imaginations to do things they were familiar with. One prisoner built a house in his mind while he was in solitary. Another play golf in his mind every day. The mind does not distinguish between reality and imagination.
Affirmations work in this manner to improve the health and welfare of an individual. I have developed a few sets of affirmations that can help a person to gain confidence, overcome fear, and cultivate self-love. They have been used by hundreds of people with good results. I was asked to approve them for a 12 step program which I did.
This is what I was talking about when I said affirmations.
I’m still waiting for someone to tell me why some people are agoraphobic, some people are bipolar, some people are perfectly normal – and none of these people differ at all in neurochemistry (if neurochemistry even exists) or any other measurable characteristic.
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That comes off as a little paranoid. “All the doctors want to fatten me up and take my boner!”
In post #253, as many have pointed out, I made a logical error which excluded people who are currently suffering illness who are in denial of it. That wasn’t my intention, as I (apparently illogically) meant for it to be intuited that those are a separate category than what I was talking about. That is, life-long healthy people who can’t fathom mental illness I apologize for any confusion
If you want the shortest most accurate answer to why people are bipolar, etc. The answer is fear, simple fear.
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I’m still waiting for someone to tell me why some people are agoraphobic, some people are bipolar, some people are perfectly normal – and none of these people differ at all in neurochemistry (if neurochemistry even exists) or any other measurable characteristic.
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I have a lot of the issues you mentioned in my large family. The agoraphobia is so prevalent it almost appears to be hereditary. But I can look at how my grandparents raised thier kids and see how they could have implanted unreasonable fears into them which magnified as they became adults. I believe it is all about how we interpeted the various chemicals in our brains at a very early age or the first time we were exposed to a situtaion and then told how to respond to it. Bi-polar seems to suggest an actual defect in our chemical processes but even with that I can see how early experiences may have programmed us into response modes that we are not capable of sustaining.
I would hinge my bets on behavioral modification tecniques that invlove rebuilding responses to the types of situations we would have encountered as children.For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.
– H. L. Mencken