Mentos and diet Coke without the Mentos and Diet Coke?

I just saw something on The Food Network about the Mentos + Diet Coke fountain. As we all know, the reaction is because Mentos have a lot of pits to provide nucleation sites and aspartame reduces the surface tension allowing small bubbles to form large bubbles.

So suppose you use a non-diet soda (or just carbonated water) and a non-food structure that has a lot of very small pits in it, and add something to the liquid to weaken surface tension. A bit of soap?

Could the results be duplicated?

I’m told salt and any carbonated beverage, diet or no, will duplicate the effect.

It works with regular Coke, too, by the way, just not as pronounced.

Valete,
Vox Imperatoris

I didn’t know that.

We’re, um, trying to fight ignorance; not admit it.

Mythbusters

The first step in fighting ignorance is to admit you’re ignorant. Go ahead, admit you’re ignorant.

Last week, I dumped some Splenda into some quite sour grapefruit soda. Much nucleation ensued, and towels were needed.

Joe

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O/T: What’s with the Canadian flag in the background of the office shot? Mythbusters is filmed in San Francisco, and all the team members are American.

This is a link to an article in the American Journal of Physics that describes a study comparing various sodas and candies. Unfortunately, I don’t subscribe to the journal so all I can see is the abstract. There is a bit more about this subject in the Wikipedia article. Edited to add that this is something that’s well-suited to home experimentation, although you might want to wait until it’s warm enough to do this outside.

tygre has recently been reminded that “salty snacks” + “drinking beer right out of the bottle” sometimes = “beer fountain.”

It’s probably a momento from the “Giant Slingshot” episode, where they were purportedly using a slingshot to get across the Canadian border. I seem to recall Kari waving it around during that episode.

That was used for the illegal immigrant slingshot myth, where Canadians :wink: were using a giant slingshot made of bungee cords to fling themselves over the border.

The main reason people use diet instead of regular Coke is ease of cleanup. The regular stuff is a sticky nightmare.

That’s not the main reason. The main reason is that ingredients in the diet version make it fizz more. See the Mythbusters link above.

Hmmm, the Mythbusters didn’t do comparisons of diet to regular soda. I grant you the lower surface tension in diet soda will cause slightly bigger fountains (ref), but as you can <sarcasm>clearly</sarcasm> see in this grainy, totally unscientific video, the reaction is fairly comparable. I know the two guys who did the famous fountain with hundreds of bottles said they used diet to make cleanup easier.

Anyone out there a subscriber to the American Journal of Physics, or willing to fork over $21 to donwload this articleand enlighten us all?

In your article, Table 2 shows Diet Coke with mint Mentos sprays a distance of 15.3 feet while Coke Classic sprays 11.6 feet. Caffeine-free Diet Coke sprays 16.3 feet. Diet Coke with fruit Mentos sprays 17.8 feet.

Here’s a pic from Wikipedia comparing various carbonated drinks, including regular and Diet Coke.

That is an awesome picture.

It doesn’t look to me as if the Diet Coke is actually fizzier; it seems to have a denser foam that holds together better. I’d speculate that many organic compounds with a polar moiety will do the same thing (as was suggested in that miserable mythbusters episode), and that a truly spectacular fountain would be produced by carbonated water with a little detergent in it.