This seems like it could be a credible challenge to the notion of corporate personhood. The ramifications of this case could be huge. I don’t know if the corporate person concept has been challenged before but it seems the argument by the creditors would have to be straight out denial.
I don’t have a strong bias but I side with Mr. Furgatch against the creditors. Will this work?
I’d add that I could imagine a legal system in which corporations could be adoptive or foster parents, even though they can’t be natural parents. However, I can’t imagine why you would want a corporation treated as a child in family law.
That corporations are legal “persons” is at the heart of corporate law, and not just a recent invention of the Supreme Court. If they were not legal persons then, for example, if you wanted to sue a manufacturer for making a faulty product that injured you, your legal suit would need to name the officers and shareholders of the corporation, and not just the corporation itself, and you would be trying to recover damages from each of the officers and shareholders. Corporate personality is a very useful device.
My guess is that this is a new issue, never raised before, about how the word “child” is interpreted in some bankruptcy legislation, so the court has to deal with it. I suspect that a court of first instance (which this one would be) has to deal with issues raised by parties, no matter how frivolous they appear, unless (for example) the party has previously been ruled as a “vexatious litigant”. You get your day in court, but I suspect that’s all the person raising this issue will get.
(But IANAL, and certainly not a lawyer practising in the State of New York.)
But I thought that the obligation to support a child, at least under US law, was not lifelong, but ended at age 18 or possibly later if the child is attending college full time or is gravely disabled.
Now Johnny, we’ve found a new foster home for you. Penn State has agreed to take you in and you will be officially under the care of the college administration.
To try and simplify the decision the opinion is not “because corporations are people they have a right to political speech”
The decision was “individual do not surrender their right to free speech due to the exercise of their right of assembly based on the fact that the form they chose to organize is a fictional entity”
It is a huge difference, There are issues with corporate person-hood, but again, if you destroyed the concept of a “fictional person” from our body of law citizen’s united’s ruling would still stand.
A limited liability company formed by a parent corp will be treated as if the parent corp were an individual, the law suit is without merit unless someone seriously messed up on the charter.
Without the common law “person hood” we would need to establish another type of legal fiction to deal with companies.
IMHO the real solution is to hold the state responsible, they have the ability to revoke charters. Not all rights are afforded to corps, there is a lot we can do besides just dreaming what ever new legal fiction they create is better.
It’s at the heart of basic civil law, period. Treating legally recognized collective entities as “persons” for some legal purposes is something without which a modern society couldn’t function.
I don’t think a lot of people realize that not all companies are corporations and not all corporations are for-profit companies.
Contrary to popular Internet belief and “The Corporation,” this was not invented in 1886, either.
But the issue here is not the denial of personhood, but the acceptance of such so that a child/subsidiary is protected from outside claims by other parties.