That’s fighting him off, isn’t it? Brown wasn’t able to get control of the gun, right?
He didn’t. As I said, several independent witnesses said they did not see Brown charging Wilson. Wilson gunned him down because he was pissed off.
No, he was probably not a great guy. That doesn’t mean he wasn’t unlawfully gunned down.
Here’s my point, if Wilson defenders feel like he was RIGHT to kill Brown because he was attacked, then say that. But to try to bolster Wilson’s implausible account is beyond reason.
You keep mentioning what makes sense and what is logical and I can’t wrap my head around why you think MB would have been behaving logically and sensibly after robbing a gas station and minutes later walking down the middle of the street baked.
How does one “run away” 10 yards? By putting one foot in front of the other really quickly. Whether he ran because he was in pain, or ran because he was trying to “run away”’ the point is he RAN 10 yards away, right?
Sometimes people argue just to argue. So even in sudden shock/pain you’re saying he then decided to charge the gun?
Setting aside the idea that a stoned convenience store robber is not the prime candidate for someone who would behave “logically” in a police shootout, it seems entirely reasonable that he could have thought he could charge the officer fast enough to take him down before being shot again.
Yes, but on what level? Nobody disputes there was an altercation at Wilson’s vehicle. So any witness who says there was a fight at the vehicle is technically, backing up Wilson’s story.
This is what, 4 times that you’ve repeated this. Is it true yet?
Let’s go to what this witness said, a (white) construction worker who was working in the area.
Sound a little ambiguous? Let’s let him clarify.
And this witness’s co-worker says the same thing.
Nothing in there corroborates Wilson’s claim that he was being charged before he opened fire. The recent autopsy report does not contradict anything that these two witnesses say, no matter how much you insist otherwise.
I agree. Brown wanted to control of Wilson’s gun and Wilson stopped him. If you want to pore over the semantic of whether that constitutes “fighting him off” or not, have at it.
YOU made the point that Brown stopped because of shock/pain. I was going with your point. If you want to contradict it now, then why did you make it in the first place?
Something tells me that the “something” that’s telling you things has a severely warped view of reality.
I didn’t even bother to follow this story when all the hoopla initially came out.
I somehow knew, several weeks later, we would be in this spot, waiting for the next “police brutality” sensation to make us all forget this waste of time and effort.
Apologies, but this particular error is really starting to freak me out. It’s not a typo or a spelling issue, it is nonsensical and must be stamped out:
It is “might’ve”’ a contraction of the words “might have”.
Ignore? Probably for a little while. I’d say that the drugs must have significantly reduced any pain he was feeling because, I don’t know about you, but if I got shot in the thumb I would probably immediately drop to the ground and roll around in agony. The fact that he didn’t do that after being shot AND getting cut up by the window (I think I read this part, may be wrong) tells me he was feeling no pain.
All of it does. But like I said earlier, the police have only themselves to blame. Things that they might have gotten away with years ago (and were wrong then) are now recorded by a dozen people with cellphones. People say it’s open season on police. I disagree, it’s more like open season on the people they wrong is over.
It doesn’t take but a few bad actors to ruin the reputation of the rest. When something like this happens the police now have to demonstrate why they should be believed after so many examples proving why they shouldn’t be. It’s up to the police themselves to restore their reputation, “policing the police”, as it were. Rather than backing the scumbags that hide behind a badge they need to cut them loose. Only then will faith be restored.
Now, I’m not saying that the officer in this case did wrong. I simply don’t know one way or the other. But I do know that 10 years ago me posting something like this would have been unthinkable. That is the measure of my loss of faith in the integrity of the police in this country. And THAT is what I find inordinately tiring about the whole situation.
Or someone who was inappropriately acting as if he was robbed,
and Brown might be rightly annoyed by that.
Anyway the cop had no reason to act SO aggressively at the time of the arrest…
The deceased may have been in an autistic state, I mean that he was high and not understanding any instructions and in a panicky state. When the car comes so close as to nearly run him over, Brown panics knowing that what might happen next is would be a * an accidental shooting*, so to speak.