. . . or they didn’t change their story at all. With all the leaks favorable to Wilson that have come out, if even one of those other witnesses changed their testimony to match his, we would’ve heard about it by now.
That doesn’t seem suspiciously excessive to me. Probably because I don’t assume cops are immune from sociopathic tendencies.
I truly think that people who parrot this line see the number 30 and think “30! That sounds like a big number! Why did he have to shoot him from 30 feet away”. I’d encourage you to stand up and measure out 30 feet on the ground in front of you and actually get a feel for how close that really is, then imagine that same 30 feet between you and a 300lb dude who just fought you for your gun and is now coming at you.
To put it in perspective, 30ft = 10 yds right? A fast offensive lineman in college is running a 5-6 second 40 yd dash. I’d guess even the most out of shape fatty could cover 40 yds in 10 seconds. How long do you think it’d take them to cover 10 yds?
You don’t see the threat there?
You seem to be forgetting that the ME is white, which makes him a lying devil in bed with The Man who will do anything to screw the blacks over.
Funny, I feel the same way when people parrot the “300 lb” line. Darren Wilson is ALSO a big guy. Mike Brown didn’t look as intimidating to him as he did to that clerk in the store. Also, Wilson had ALREADY fought off this “300 lb dude” from grabbing his gun.
Thirty feet IS a short distance but it’s a lot longer than when they were fighting over the gun. It makes ZERO sense that Brown first ran from the gun, then turned around and ran TO the gun. It makes a lot more sense that Brown surrendered and Wilson gunned him down because he was pissed off about being attacked.
He attacks and tries to make a break for it. He hears the officer yell “STOP OR I’LL SHOOT!” His drug-addled mind decides he’s not fast enough to outrun a bullet and he’s not going to stop, so he decides to turn around and fight it out after all.
Except that the forensic evidence proves this didn’t happen.
If by “fight him off” you mean “had to shoot him in the hand” then yeah. I suppose.
You’re right. It does make ZERO sense. That’s why MB looks like such a dumbass for doing it.
Although, he was on his way to HVAC college so maybe he is a smart dude after all.
You’re missing the point. The 30 ft is a sticking point because Wilson wants us to believe that Brown had actually stopped in his tracks–after running away from him only seconds before—and instead of surrendering, actually started charging him.
Brown was the one who was trying to put distance between him and the cop. That’s defensive behavior, not offensive, and it’s not even disputed. If Wilson hadn’t chased after him, the distance between them would have been greater. So it beggars belief for him to claim it was Brown who was trying to run towards him.
It beggars belief that Brown was somehow shot in the front while running away from the shooter.
What makes you think he was ever “running away from him”?
How does one “run away” 10 yds? I’d say it’s very possible that MB recoiled in shock/pain 10 yds from the police car after getting shot in the hand and cut up by the window don’t you?
You really need to stand up and get a visual of what 10yds actually looks like. Seriously. I know you haven’t.
Have you ever even smoked pot? :dubious:
If you repeat this enough, does it become true?
Witnesses say he stopped after being fired at and turned around, at which point he was shot more. I thought you were following the details here.
Because that’s what witnesses saw.
Seriously, I think some of you need to watch this video again. It’s not like people are skeptical of Darren Wilson’s story just because it sounds hinky. It also contradicts what lots of people saw.
What actually happened doesn’t necessarily contradict what the witnesses think they saw. I can very easily see how someone could interpret “running in the direction of the officer with hands in a lunging position” as “turning around and putting hands up to surrender” in the heat of the moment.
What about the opposite? Could Wilson have see Brown surrendering and mistaken that for a threat?
There are emerging reports of several eye witnesses whose testimony before the grand jury support the accounts of officer Wilson.
This Huffington Post article says "over a half dozen’, seven or eight, black, eyewitness reports.
Because that’s what witnesses say and that’s consistent with the physical evidence.
You’re assuming that Brown was shot 10 yds from where the altercation started. Why are you assuming that when that’s not what was reported by anyone?
I’m glad this place is so tightly modded. (No sarcasm) Compared to NYT commenters or Huff Post commenters…this place looks a Roberts Rules of Order book club.
I guess the first gunshot at the police car got everybody looking in that direction. Quite a few witnesses have come forward.
I originally thought the officer had been too aggressive. That he fired in anger during the heat of the moment. But as the evidence trickles out its convinced me that he was defending himself. First the forensics and now witnesses back that up.
We were told in my concealed carry class that a small caliber bullet won’t stop someone charging at us. It’s amazing how the body keeps moving even after being shot. That 90 seconds it takes them to die is a long time when they are already charging at you. We were told to keep firing until the guy goes down or the clip is empty. That’s what the cop did. He followed his training.
So he decides he’s not fast enough to run AWAY from a bullet but then decides he’s fast enough to run TOWARDS it? Silly. I agree with the first part (he’s not fast enough to get away) but the logical response to that idea is to sto and surrender.
No, it doesn’t. Not even close. As I said, the forensic evidence is neutral in that respect.
I am not following you. Didn’t you say that no one would change their story from “standing” to “charging” because that was too big a change. Now you are saying that it isn’t a change at all.
Wouldn’t we also have heard about changes favorable to his indictment? There is at least as much intimidation on the one side as the other.
Didn’t one of the witnesses already say that he was scared to come forward because his testimony backed up Wilson’s account?
Regards,
Shodan