Michael Moore

Carlin’s over 35. There’s nothing in the Constitution requiring him to be alive, too. Although taking the oath might present some difficulties …

The idea of Uygur could have some appeal based on issues like big donor money in politics. I think it would be a nightmare otherwise. At best Uygur’s fame is built upon a misconception of what journalism is. He has always described what TYT does as journalism, yet the bulk of their content is them taking existing reporting done by others and giving their commentary on it. I don’t want a choice between 2 people who present such a skewed view of what the role of journalism ought to be.

He also has trouble controlling his emotions at times. He has a self-admitted fighter mentality, and it manifests in undignified ways.

I regularly watch TYT on You Tube, and I don’t think he would be a good candidate, even if he was interested in public office.

He’s honest, but if he entered politics, that would quickly end.

Moore has zero chance of winning anything in politics beyond a state level senator.

He probably things Trump will be re-elected, and he’ll be right again.

The 4Q news on the economy was impressive.

Seriously folks, what’s the problem here?
Surely there are worse ideas? Moore is a good communicator and has been studying and advocating for a long time.

He’s about the worst possible person to imagine running for office.

None come to mind.

Nobody likes him. They may like his ideas, but not him.

Cenk was born in Istanbul, which is neither the US nor Constantinople. As he gets on well with that Armenian woman there is a possibility of peace on that front.

Almost intentionally so.

Are we on the search for someone who is hated more than Hillary Clinton? Sounds like a clever plan.

As a Michigan native who’s knowledge of the existence of Michael Moore dates back 40 years. No. He’s the Limbaugh of the left.

Disclaimer: I’m not American
I see Michael Moore plenty of news commentary / analysis shows and he always comes across to me as knowledgeable and down-to-earth.
I know his documentaries give an exaggerated picture, but I still don’t understand the way some are depicting him in this thread. Can someone link a video of him saying or doing something objectionable because I don’t see it.

Well, I am a US citizen but I was neither born there, nor do I currently live there. However, I like to think that this allows me to see the forest rather than the trees.

The answer to your question is polarization in extremis. Everybody lives in their own bubble and gets to pick opinions and commentaries that are tailored to their personal believes. There is no more room for debate or difference of opinion.

Thus Moore became the counterpart of Coulter and Limbaugh and is hated for being Michael Moore, much in the same way that Hillary Clinton is hated with a totally inappropriate and irrational vigor. Cheered on by right wing pundits and a president who loves to fan the flames, these people get more and more convinced of their own believes and anyone who disagrees is hate bait.

To me it bears resemblance to cult-think or (I hate to say it) prewar Germany. There is no more reasoning with these people.

And don’t think this is an American thing. The same thing is happening all over Europe where populist right wing parties villainize the opposition just to create a common enemy. Hate is a great unifier and politicians (on both sides!) are more and more using it as a means of creating momentum.

I just hate him cause he’s fat and ugly and still owes me money.

What are his qualifications as a leader, a statesman, a diplomat and a political operator?

Does American really need another fucking amateur?

Republicans probably do view Moore in much the same way that Democrats view Limbaugh. But the difference is, Republicans worship Limbaugh, but even most Democrats are ambivalent at best towards Moore. You might be able to win with a candidate that the other side hates, if your own side loves him enough (as evidenced by Trump). But nobody loves Moore.

I was drawing a comparison between the men, not how they’re viewed by their respective “sides”.