Don’t say things like this: you’re just egging her on.
He won’t allow it. Even dead, Roosevelt was so badass, he’d come back as a zombie armed with an AK-47 just to stop it. And how exactly would you deal with zombie Roosevelt with an AK-47 ?
By singing Run to the Hills. Exactly.
Perhaps because in WWII, we hyper-industrialized and created lots of war stuff, stuff that wasn’t there before. And that stuff was built by formerly unemployed people. And after the war, the factories that used to make war stuff made cars and refrigerators. Plus, there was the Marshall Plan, which meant we sold stuff to Europe, too.
In Bush’s wars, we had a whole lot of soldiers, sailors, etc. sitting around not playing war … and then we shipped them off to war in far-away places, which is a very expensive thing to do and it just generally drained our federal coffers. No new jobs, just Treasury hemorrhaging.
The only thing that can get you ostracized by Republicans lately is to question the Republican leadership. Since no one knows who is leading the Republicans these days, that might be hard to do.
What a cartoonish and selective description of the New Deal. I won’t engage in hypotheticals about whether or not I’d like something like that. It’s out of a fantasy world and not germane to this or any other discussion of economic policy.
I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head there, Spiff. We weren’t already on a war footing going into WWII - we had to build nearly all our tanks and planes and ships from scratch.
All the fancy materiel we’re shipping out to Iraq and Afghanistan was already bought and paid for, except, apparently, for body armor, which probably just means that body armor is made in a safe Congressional district.
Depends on if zombification cured his polio or not. He couldn’t roll that antique wheelchair and shoot at the same time, now could he?
He’s so badass, he had to be two different presidents just to contain that much badassery.
Right now, most consumer prices are artificially low. They don’t allow for the environmental and health damage done during extraction/harvest/manufacture. While this primarily applies to imports, it also applies to many locally manufactured/grown products.
For example, poultry is cheap, in large part because huge poultry factories generate an enormous amount of chicken shit. This chicken shit travels via rain run-off into the local streams, which feed into the local rivers, which eventually feed into large bodies of water such as the ocean. It causes alge bloom, which kills off the fish and shellfish. But as consumers, we don’t pay the cost of cleaning up the run-off water, and in fact would come close to riot if poultry prices went up to what they actually cost when you take that clean-up into account. Economies of scale are killing us.
It’s not just a matter of corporations getting rich. As consumers, we in the first world are busy destroying that which we buy so cheaply, because we can always get it somewhere else. Except that we’re not doing it sustainably, and frankly I don’t see any prospect of people wising up before collapse. Our attitudes have too strong a sense of entitlement and lack of interest in the inter-related web that makes our consumption possible.
Sorry, I’ve been reading Jared Diamond’s Collapse, and am not feeling terribly optimistic about our chances. Not sure why I care, because I am not closely connected by either emotion or blood to anyone under the age of 45 or so, but I do.
No - it is what the NRA did - and since the NRA was the most important aspect of the New Deal, intended to regulate the entire economy (at least before it was found to be unconstitutional), looking at it isn’t hypothetical, it is historical analysis.
The defeat of the NRA in the Supreme Court was the final straw that drove Roosevelt to his court-packing plan. I’m guessing you don’t support his actions there either - it’s not going too far out on a limb to guess that.
What I offered wasn’t a cartoonish and selective description of the New Deal. I have already noted that the monetary and banking reforms worked well. But there were aspects of the New Deal that didn’t work well at the time and wouldn’t be copied today by any sane politician - and it isn’t Roosevelt bashing to observe that.
Well, I for one am quite tired of it! Seems we can’t have any conversation about deranged Congresshags without it degenerating into *another *endless round of Roosevelt-bashing!
(Like deja voodoo all over again!) Dup del.
Its the RDS (Roosevelt derangement syndrome), the greatest outbreak of the disease since the 1940’s
They had another one in stock.
People were afraid of his vengeful spirit up until the apotheosis of Ronald Reagan, at which point they found that with enough genuflection toward The Gipper they would be protected from The Ghost of Old Wheelie.
-Joe
But Nostrasladamus said “when the black man with the funny name reaches the throne of the big northern country, the sound of rusty wheels will be heard again” or some such, i think, or not.
Oh, crap, this thread is going to turn into a quatrain wreck.
Does this kind of stupid turn home schooling into child abuse?
No one could have predicted…
I think the Bachman obsession on these boards is attributable to the fact that some of our more vocal members come from her neck of the woods.
I think too that some of her comments over the years might have been misconstrued or deliberately placed int he worst possible light. This has been discussed in other threads.
In this case, she was wrong, and she really has no excuse for what she said.