When I was a kid Queen Elizabeth and Prince Philip came to the city I live in. Everybody in town turned out to see them (it was the sixties). All the kids were given little flags to wave and my sister and I stood by the side of the road for what seemed like hours waiting for them to drive past. I was very short and despaired that I’d ever see anything at all. However, just at the moment they drove past the people in front moved and I found myself staring straight at the Queen’s car with a perfect view. She waved at the crowd on the other side of the road and then turned towards my side. At that moment her expression seemed to change and I swear she scowled right at me. A real, nasty scowl. I was only about seven.
Maybe she just thought you were a wanker.
No one cared about Bob Geldof because there was always Keith and Mick. No one cared about Paul McCartney and Elton John for the same reason. It’s like Eminem getting the Queer of the Year award.
A Queen with prescient ability? Who’da thought it?
What’s the problem with Mick Jagger getting a gong, anyway? If it wasn’t all about public adulation, the “look at me, see what I’ve done” kind of thing – I doubt, seriously, whether any of the old rockers would have started in the first place.
Also – who flamin’ cares, anyway?
Am I missing something here?
What does the Queen looking at G. Nome funny have to do with Mick Jagger being knighted? And what does Bob Geldof have to do with Mick and Keith? And no one cared about Sir Paul McCartney and Sir Elton John … regarding what? And lastly, what does Eminem have to do with a goddamned thing?
Could somebody run this rant through a translator for me?
Royalty is an outdated institution.
That is all.
Tinky-Winky was my favorite Telly-Tubby.
Who’s up for the next non-sequitor?
My cat’s breath smells like cat food.
I find it doesn’t pay to question the level of reality or connections of “fact” within G.Nome’s posts.
To do so will only end up, at best, in confusion, and at worst, with G.Nome addressing you by the way of a flame.
Best to just ignore (so why didn’t I do that, I wonder?) and move on.
Normally, I think there is some hubris involved when you write your posts in such a way that people must puzzle through them. This time however, I found your little tale amusing.
Are these ceremonies entirely public, or are there private moments? Well, I mean, the Mickster has a legendary appeal for the ladies, and the Queen being, well, you know, Queen and all. Not that I’m suggesting anything, you understand, but were Mick and Her Highness ever alone?
“Call me Lizzie” she said, huskily, as she proceeded to…
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Too bad she’s got you by the balls
You can’t get free at all
She’s got your name
She’s got your number
You’re screamin’
Like thunder
And you can’t get away from it all
Thank you Balduran. I don’t think my thread or my contributions to it so far deviate too much from the SD norm. Admit it.
Jack Batty: If you came from the other side of the tracks rather than the “astral plane” you might understand how Mick Jagger’s knighthood is a disappointment. Do a search for Jagger or the Rolling Stones and your screen will be covered in words like rebellion, freedom, class struggle, dissent and defiance. People like him redeem the lives of misfits and outsiders in a real sense. His was the voice that said it was cool to be different.
And that’s how it is.
Class struggle, the Stones?
Surely you jest. The right band at the right time, but as far as polititcs go, the Sex Pistols they ain’t.
And why couldn’t you be “different”, and still be knighted? With Elton John, they knighted an openly gay man. Does that mitigate all that Elton has done, or the effect it has had on the acceptance of homosexuality? Fuck no! If anything, it underlines that it IS accepted even by Royalty.
I don’t see how Jagger is any different. The official explanation was that he was knighted “for his great contribution to British music”. Can’t really fault that.
I did the search, and could only find that the Rolling Stones are a mega-rock group, with great music to their credit, and lives that fill the scandal sheets. Rebellion, freedom, dissent, defiance? According to Martha Bayles of the Washington Post:
I appreciate you seem to have some idealism toward Mick Jagger, G.Nome – but nothing’s really changed. Just everyone got older, is all.
And that’s how it really is.
I’m sure Mick and the rest of the stones made a great contribution to the British coffers before they all moved their home of record to various tax havens.
In any event, it seems a little unfair that only Mick gets knighted. Don’t the rest of the Stones deserve it as well? What did Mick do that the others didn’t (besides kilos of heroin a la Keith Richards, or young teenage females like Bill Wyman, or drown in his pool after a suspected drug OD like Brian Jones)? Um, I mean, why doesn’t Charlie Watts deserve a knighthood, too?
Not to mention the fact, G. Nome, that if you’d explained your position a little more clearly, using … oh, say English … I might have known what you were pissed off about. Instead I get, “The Queen stared at me funny.”
If I told you the story of the time that Rosalyn Carter stuck her tongue out at me, would you automatically assume I was just pissed off that the Boston Red Sox haven’t won a World Series since 1918?
No. You wouldn’t.
Well, maybe you would.
I didn’t get the OP at all. I didn’t even know that Mick got the thingie until I read it later in the thread. I still don’t understand the relation. Oh well.
Not so much an OP as OPaque, in my view.
I can’t see that it matters one iota who gets a tin badge from our Prune-Faced Richest Parasite, but some aspects of the Jagger award puzzle me.
Argument in favour: allegedly a great contribution to British music, and British exports. Sure, he co-wrote some great rock songs (but Keith’s was no less a contribution) and was the front man for a rock band which stayed together a long time, even after the hits dried up.
Arguments against: known drug-abuser, known womaniser, known to have fathered at least one child outside of his marriage and had to be sued to cough up the maintenance… this is the kind of behaviour we think merits a public award?
Some might say ‘Let him cast the first stone’, and enjoy the pun at the same time, but I still think there are more worthy contenders.
The cynical view might be that the Palace wants to use the gongs to seem a bit more ‘in touch’ and trendy.