Mike Huckabee keeps blowing my mind

Wow. Just… wow. Never heard of the guy before, but at least according to Wiki he was anti-democracy, favored capital punishment for virtually everything, was a Holocaust denier, a segregationist, a racist, etc. etc. etc.: R. J. Rushdoony - Wikipedia

I hope this explains everything:

Huckabee is NOT a conservative!
(Huckabee is a preacher, a liberal, entertaining, preacher)

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It certainly explains something, although not about Huckabee.

On what fucked up planet could Mike “If You Ain’t A Christian, You Ain’t Shit” Huckabee be considered a liberal?

There are people considerably to the right of Mike Huckabee and from their skewed perspective he is a liberal, in the same way that if you live in Los Angeles, Las Vegas is an East Coast city.

What did Huckabee do wrong in that case?

I guess I’m asking if you oppose all executive clemency, and believe that a criminal should always serve out his sentence, or if you contend that Huckabee made some error in specifically how he handled this case.

Personally, I don’t think Huckabee did anything wrong in the Clemmons case. Bad results aren’t necessarily because everyone involved did bad things.

You responded to what Argent Towers said in post 37; read what I wrote in post 38. I didn’t say Huckabee did any thing wrong. I clarified who Argent Towers was talking about in case you or anybody else wasn’t sure.

I’m willing to cut him some slack here too. If there was a pattern of showing clemency to violent criminals that went on to commit violent crimes, then, yeah, that’d be a problem. But one unfortunate instance? Not so much, especially since he was not alone on this.

I found the DuMondclemency a bit more problematic since there was at least a hint of politicking to it (catering to the religious community that both hated Bill Clinton and believed DuMond’s conversion story) and the fact that there were allegations of pressure applied to the parole board.

That said, it likely wouldn’t be enough to outright prevent me from voting for him (although other issues are).

In an unrelated point, I would also add that I disapprove of the notion that a parole board can approve probation on the grounds that the convict leave the state - that reeks of passing your offenders off on someone else. I was frankly surprised it is allowed.

I’m not surprised that it’s allowed, but I’ve never heard of it actually being done before (other than in Wild West “If you wanna live, get your ass out of this county by sundown” lore). Exile is unheard-of in American criminal justice, IME, either as a sentence or as a condition of parole. That’s one of the reasons Edward Everett Hale’s The Man Without A Country has such emotional weight.

Provide a cite for the latter?

Can’t you even get your terminology straight? How is a person who says the US should be a Christian nation a racist? Religious devoutedness has little correlation with racism. Your comments are ignorant and slanderous.

That all said, I find his willingness to pardon hardened murderous dangerous (and incidentally proves he’s not a real dominionist/reconstructionist since they strongly support the death penalty especially for murder)

I think the Wiki article’s been “hijacked” by someone with some sort of a grudge against Rushdoony who’s taken certain quotes out of context. And there are a lot of Constitutionalists who draw a distinction between a republic and a democracy.

So now there must be a rogue Wikipedian telling lies about Rushdoony because a Calvinist couldn’t really be such a vile person?

I used to read the Chalcedon Report magazine put out by Rushdoony’s successors. Seemed mostly innocuous, but they very culturally conservative Calvinists with some pretty drastic extra-Biblical ideas about government. For example, R. J. Rushdoony thought any tax above a ten-percent tithe to the church was heinous; I’m not sure he knew what alms were, nor cared about modern economic theories like Keynesianism & monetarism.

It’s not hard to see how that sort become fellow-travelers of Objectivists & old-fashioned corrupt plutocrats; they all hate the state in general, & especially the welfare state. I put nothing past Calvinists/Presbyterians/Reformed Churches.

Unforgiveable!

Well if he was conservative he would have said “If You Ain’t A Protestant, You Ain’t Shit”. We are slowly making progress.

I didn’t say he was a racist because he claims the US to be christian, I said that because of the countless attacks on homosexuals-- even denying job discrimination.

And religious devoutness certainly DOES have a HUGE correlation with racism (I doubt your Mikey-boy hangs with Jews a lot. :rolleyes:), more like misogyny with him and his women denouncing comments. A baptist priest, former or current, is closed minded, period. Mikey’s comments only help to prove this when he has already expressed numerous times that he is not interested in life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for all. If you’re not a christian, if you’re homosexual, if you’re female, you deserve less. That’s his platform.

My comments may be slanderous and perhaps ignorant, but you can say the exact same thing about Fuckabee and be absolutely right.

Yikes! What a relief that there’s no such thing.

But it’s cool, bro, that you don’t let an obvious lack of experience and/or knowledge about Baptists keep you from forming an opinion about them.

Wait… he’s a racist because he hates gays?

You can’t trust those Gayians.