Bidens idea isnt bad which is to get rid cash bails because its a big burden on the poor. Such a program is a good idea but should be immediately suspended because it could very well be going to bail out the criminals behind this crap.
Who benefits? Anarchists and others who benefit from terror and the destruction of order.
Who pays them off? Thats what needs to be investigated.
Looters are different than protesters. The vast majority of protesters are peaceful and haven’t harmed anyone. Looters loot. There’s a difference. Why are you grouping these two very different categories together?
I’m sorry, but this is just incorrect. First, it’s not the “Biden campaign” The story says Biden staff donated. And the story also says “did not make it clear on whether the donations were coordinated within the campaign”
Second, the story clearly says it’s for “protesters” while you somehow put “rioters” in your post.
I suggest you read your cites more carefully to avoid mistakes such as these in future posts.
This is feeling more and more like a Burning of the Reichstag moment. The last thing I’m worried about is whether an anarchist gets their bail paid, when our own president is using the military as his personal campaign op tool and is threatening to treat protests as insurrections.
I don’t doubt that is the truth but then why are the authorities so reluctant to crack down hard on the looters and destroyers? Are they afraid that the peacefull protesters might evolve into criminals.
Who says that authorities are reluctant to crack down on looters? AFAICT, looters are arrested when they’re identified and law enforcement is in the vicinity and has this capability.
LA here and a tale of two days.
Sunday, organized looters descended on and destroyed quite a few businesses in Santa Monica and Long Beach (each separate cities from Los Angeles). The police didnt seem to have any plan whatsoever to deal with looting and burning and it took them hours to respond and the damage had already been done. In some cases the looters were looting right in front of the police who did nothing.
Monday, in Los Angeles neighborhoods of Hollywood and Van Nuys. It took no more than a few minutes for the LAPD to respond to looters and the damage was fairly well contained. The looters seemed to be targeting drug stores. It was important for the police to respond quickly because looted drug stores cant fill prescriptions and that can adversely affect the health of locals, especially those without cars.
Cellphones have made looting and vandalizing much safer and effective. Looters pull up in cars, have burglary tools at the ready and are in and out in a few minutes. Then they go somewhere else.
One fortunate thing for Southern California is that there are far fewer cases of arson. It should take far less time for (big) businesses to reopen. There seems to be debate whether insurance will cover riot damage. If it doesnt that will really hurt the majority of businesses that were damaged…small ones.
In some cases it took years for burned businesses to return after the 1992 riots. That greatly affects the local communities as many people dont own cars and grocery shopping for a family can be difficult. For the sake of the greater population looters must be dealt with quickly.
Resolved: Democrats need to be careful to avoid a repeat of 1933.
Barack Obama’s statement on Medium was pitch perfect:
But then today in his town hall, which I watched part of, he apparently said nothing along these lines at all–and the local right wing TV host (and presumably others elsewhere) pounced. D’oh! :smack:
Maybe you can call him up and offer him your political strategic advice? With your help, the right wing media will stop pouncing on things he says or doesn’t say.
I would be a good advisor, that’s true. I predicted on Daily Kos that Reverend Wright would be a problem months before that actually blew up.
:dubious: Odd that somebody with your supposed political acumen wasn’t able to figure out in advance something as simple as the fact that Rep. Ilhan Omar would be opposed to rioters burning down buildings, since you claim you were “pleasantly surprised” by her conveying that message.
Cite?
Here you go. It was actually April 2007, nearly a year before it blew up in March 2008:
https://www.dailykos.com/comments/329212/11230308#comment_11231151
Your instincts were right: you thought it was too radical to sell to middle America, and Obama lost every middle America state except Minnesota and Iowa and Wisconsin and Illinois and Michigan and Indiana (!) and Ohio, gaining a mere 96 electoral votes from the region.
Seriously, get on the phone with Biden’s people, politicians will pay big bucks for that sort of insight!
:rolleyes:
Obama was nearly knocked out of the primary. David Axelrod and all his top aides, and every political observer, agrees on that. It was only a sensational race speech (and the fact that he had banked so many delegates) that saved him. Had the video come out a month or two earlier, Hillary would have been the nominee.
Also, political scientists have concluded that there was a “missing landslide” in the cards for 2008. A generic white male nominee would have beaten McCain by double digits, but Obama underperformed relative to the political environment. We are very lucky that it was such a fertile environment, and that the GOP brand was in the tank (people remember the economic meltdown, Sarah Palin, and Iraq, but forget that a lot of the GOP’s problems had to do with Mark Foley, who has somehow been forgotten).
Soo…
The Obama campaign was caught totally flatfooted in March 2008.
Jon Favreau thought they were “fucked”.
But my warning from April 2007 was worthless? :dubious: Mmmkay then.
I mean, sure, change what you said, from " this all sounds too radical to sell to middle America" to something like your new position, which is, “this will present a challenge to his campaign,” and it suddenly becomes both true and Captain Obvious. Maybe you read these speeches before his campaign did, which, bully for you I suppose. But your prediction was wrong.
And your prediction in this case is wrong too: the public is strongly on the side of the protesters, and the protests are already starting to see major effects (school districts removing SROs, LA defunding the police, cities across the country reforming use-of-force guidelines or duty-to-intervene guidelines).
People are pissed, righteously, and Trump is losing ground badly. Rather than wag your finger at the protests and give your terrible political advice to Biden and Pelosi, maybe step back and watch how real political leaders lead.
Take two sainthoods out of petty cash.
At the time, even this liberal white guy thought “God damn America!” might be slightly over the top (but understandable).
Now, three years and counting, it sounds (to me) tamely obvious.