Minnesota trial of Derek Chauvin (killer of George Floyd) reactions

We have to hope that this development continues. Instead of a Blue Wall, some law enforcement people seem to have started thinking in terms of ‘good cops policing their own’ and ‘getting rid of bad cops helps us.’

If they all start thinking that way, there will be fewer cases of abuse of police power.

The length of time is not a factor:

Deliberation and premeditation mean that the prosecutor must show that the defendant developed the conscious intent to kill before committing the murder. This is a low threshold and does not require showing that the defendant created an extensive plan before he committed the act (although that might sometimes be the case). Rather, deliberation and premeditation require only that the defendant paused, for at least a few moments, to consider his actions, during which time a reasonable person would have had time to second guess such actions.

Bolding mine.

In a murder case in a town where I lived, a man was charged and convicted of first degree murder because he grabbed a knife before jumping out of his truck to pursue a woman, whom he killed mere seconds after he left the vehicle. He had not decided to kill her until that moment. The few seconds sufficed.

Not saying the Chauvin case qualifies, merely that you’re mistaken on the length of time necessary for premeditation.

Chauvin guilty. Another giant leap for mankind, particularly the American ones.

Institutional integrity. It’s good to know that some organizations have it.

I’m sure that there are still a lot of officers in law enforcement agencies thinking, “Whatever. That’s libtard Minneapolis; that shit ain’t happenin’ here.” Maybe not. But it’s a start.

That’s a strange question, but I’ll answer it. Yes.

I am curious to know what Chauvin had written on his hand.

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Glad I’m not the only one who’s wondering about that. I’m going through the posts on another site, and I’m really surprised that no one has mentioned it there.

ETA: I saw the breaking news alert on my phone as I was about to leave work; I felt relief. And the video of Chauvin’s reaction was quite fitting.

https://www.foxbangor.com/tmz/derek-chauvin-wrote-lawyers-phone-number-on-hand/

The system is Ok. The issue is that there are too many individuals who are assholes, jerks and racists.

“cuffs go here”

He couldn’t just memorize his lawyer’s phone number? 10 digits?

Well, he couldn’t stop killing someone when he knew he was being recorded by multiple cameras…memorizing so many numbers might be a reach for him.

I’m a little puzzled. Love the verdict, but I don’t understand the phrasing “second degree murder while committing a felony” or however it was phrased. Was the assault the felony and the taking of life while committing that felony what was referred to?

I can’t anymore :rage:. I’m constantly mixing up my OWN two phone lines when asked off the cuff - doesn’t help that they’re superficially similar ( lots of 1’s and 2’s). I think I’ve memorized so many goddamned numbers in my lifetime that they’re now starting to all run together.

That or encroaching senility.

The Onion did not wait or hold back at all:

Depressed Police Officer Reminds Self That Chauvin Verdict Not Representative Of System At Large

Yep… Kind of stupid.

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1961 TV cartoon addresses this common hazard of modern life: See specifically 6:40 through 8:10:

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Interesting. Takes note of this on hand.

But the way law works - if a person dies while you are committing felony assault, its 2nd degree murder.