So, the police are getting (or always have been) out of control, our grand juries won’t touch them, and with the ever-increasing publicity of their depredations (this being the Internet age and all), there are ever more and more protests and demonstrations. And the inevitable violent nut-cases who take things into their own hands. So it goes.
So, nobody should even be protesting that shit? All the poor blacks (and others) who haven’t been killed by cops yet should just roll over and passively wait their turn? Protesters and politicians who do so much as acknowledge that we’ve got a problem here, are now at fault?
Got it. All Obama’s fault. And Holder. And de Blasio. The most “predictable outcome” here is the jack-asses on Fox blaming it all on Obama.
Fuck Giuliani and fuck Pataki for saying this kind of shit, and fuck Fox (as always) for being the platform for spewing this kind of horsecrap, not to mention our own in-house congenital cop apologists right here on SDMB.
What is it going to take? Do we need to have our all-out war already, kill every cop, politician, and talking head now and start over with a clean house?
Would it make you feel any better if I said that I don’t hold Obama or anyone else responsible for the actions of an unstable lunatic who would probably have done this regardless of what any politician or pundit had to say?
You do realize that probably 100% of people are breaking the law daily since there are so damn many, basically anyone can be arrested at any time should you be targeted. And why should people passively accept unfair harassment and arrest, when their whole life they have heard from all their family and friends stories of being unfairly arrested and targeted by police?
I’m not defending any particular person or case, I’m saying it is easy to say that when you haven’t had the experience and heard from those around you of unfair police harassment. Or I guess this groundswell of anti-police sentiment came out of thin air?
Yikes. I read something about Lynch blaming it on De Blasio in strong terms, but I somehow hadn’t noticed that particular quote. Is this guy channeling Wayne LaPierre or something?
After a lifetime of hearing the PBA bitch and moan, many NYers realize than any and every measure taken to rein in, admonish, or hold the NYPD accountable will be excoriated by the PBA. Personally, I wouldn’t piss on Giuliani’s jackboots if he were on fire. His years in office helped build the foundation for today’s out-of-control aspects of the NYPD.
They definitely deserve a lot of blame. Before Holder and Obama began their cynical manipulations it was difficult to find anti-police rhetoric anywhere, particularly on the internet.
I had a friend who became a Chicago cop. We were having drinks one day (he was off duty) talking about stuff like this. He told me to never piss off a cop because they can pretty much always find something to charge you with no matter how righteous and upstanding a citizen you think you might be. It might be something petty but it’ll be enough at the least to ruin the rest of your day at a minimum.
The guy that the cops murdered for selling cigarettes was not violently resisting by any stretch of the imagination. He was merely protesting the arrest and certainly did not deserve his fate.
Just the punks who think that the police should have free rein and no consequences. If they can’t get it through their heads that cops are not angels with absolute authority over civilians, they can be overruled by more cautious game theorists who don’t want the blood of police on the streets all the time. Failing that imposition of restraint, yeah, “No justice, no peace,” is going to become very terrifyingly real in some localities.
Maybe most police are halfway decent, I don’t know. What is unacceptable is that the few that are brutes are not held accountable by the power structure.
NYPD are not at-will employees, he’d have to write him up and take him to the discipline board. Even if he were legally empowered to do so, politically the mayor would not want to discipline too harshly a public-sector labor leader for being crass and odious against the employer. That’s often perceived as coming with the territory of a labor leader’s job.