I hope its not related to the Brooklyn “I Can’t Breath” protests against cops. Several cops have been punched and attacked in the last couple weeks. Doesn’t help that their new mayor threw all the police under the bus.
Still early in the investigation. This may just be a wacko.
In what way did the new mayor throw all the police under the bus?
Right after the grand jury de Blasio issued apublic letter. I can’t ever recall any public official condemn their own police force so strongly.
NY has been down this road before. The cops hands were tied and crime in NY skyrocketed in the 70’s and 80’s. It culminated with the Bernhard Goetz subway shooting. It took over a decade to bring down the crime rate. Now de Blasio has his chance to screw it up all over again.
So by not being complicit in covering up gross negligence bordering on homicide by the NYPD he’s throwing them under the bus - got it.
I hope this cop ambush is an isolated incident by a disturbed individual.
I’d hate to think the anti-cop feelings are bad enough for out right murder/
Well I definitely agree with you there.
Sorry mods for copying out such a large portion of text but I think it’s necessary in this circumstance.
aceplace57, please point out the strong comdemnation of the police force in the following. And then explain your ‘thrown under the bus statement’ since you attributed an action to De Blasio and didn’t attribute the statement to the irrelevant and hardly credible feelings of the PBA.
How would you feel if your boss told the world you needed to be retrained? That your racist attitudes needed to be adjusted?
If thats not a slap in the face, I can’t imagine what would be. This is the Mayor speaking. Not some angry demonstrator.
These men are facing armed criminals every single day. Thousands of arrests each month. Good police work done by the book. 1 citizen dies and the entire force is condemned?
Oh for fucks sake. If their excuse for sitting by while the guy suffocated to death due to their negligence is that they were just following their training, then how in the fuck would they be so gravely offended if someone said their training needed to be changed? Are we denying that what happened was a bad outcome and shouldn’t be a typical result from a police encounter? For fucks sake.
If we can’t even say their training was bad, WHICH IS A STATEMENT ITSELF WHICH EXCUSES THEIR BEHAVIOR, in case it hurts their felings, can you not see how fucking absurd this blue shield bullshit is, where our main concern when the police slowly murder a guy is that the police don’t get offended by suggesting their flimsy excuse for that matter should be rectified in the future?
So we shouldn’t train cops to reduce excessive force because it hurts their feelings?
You’re joking, right?
I don’t see an attachment to reality in your statement. If my company wasn’t doing well I’d expect and welcome my boss expressing a desire for all of us to do better in the future. The racist attitude thing is something you have made up.
A slap in the face would be direct criticism of the police department instead of expressing a desire and active effort to improve.
Again, where is the condemnation?
How many cops are in NY? 25,000? 40,000? I’m not sure. The arrests each month have to be in the tens of thousands for a city the size of NY. 99.99% of those arrests are done professionally with minimum danger to the cop and the citizen.
There might be a few hundred cases a year of excessive force. Those need to be investigated. Theres already a mechanism for that. Internal Affairs. Perhaps they need more resources to do their job. More officers, more investigations of excessive force. That’s the solution.
To condemn all the good officers for the stupid actions of a few cops is an over reaction.
de Blasio brought up race and injustice in his letter. Not me.
He didn’t do that.
You made the claim that he attributed racist attitudes to the police. Please point that out in the letter.
He also pointed out that injustice harms us all. Do you disagree with that? Are you actually advocating for injustice?
Are we reading the same letter? The exact words he used were “retrain the entire NYPD to reduce the use of excessive force”. Thats pretty clear that he’s blaming all the officers for the actions of a few bad ones.
I quoted the police union’s response in the Washington Post article. They feel betrayed and they used the term thrown under the bus. I simply repeated the thrown under the bus phrase in my OP.
de Blasio is off to a horrific start as Mayor. He’s managed to antagonize people on multiple issues. First the horse carriage ban, which thankfully there’s not enough support for. Now he goes after the NYPD.
updated story. Both officers died. Ambushed and murdered in their patrol car. 
It’s clear that’s what you think it means. How exactly do you expect the problem officers to be retrained? Should a memo be sent out asking officers who need retraining to step forward?
If you don’t like the guy that’s fine, the horse carriage thing makes him sound like a nut bag to me, but I can’t really see anything but an over-the-top biased interpretation from you about a fair and reasonable statement on this subject.
No it’s not. Not one bit.
What do you propose, we wait to see which officers use excessive force to determine which ones should be properly trained, or could it just possibly be that the smart thing to do is train the entire force to be sure everyone knows the proper procedures?
How is it blaming anyone to say that they’re going to learn lessons from particular incidents to redesign their training regimes?
If an officer got shot, and they learned from this incident to train the police differently in how they responded to potent gunmen by approaching in a way that’s safer for them, would you say he was blaming the cop who died?
For fucks sake, we take practical field lessons to refine training all the time, in every field. What’s the alternative? “Our current training regimes will never be altered, for if they are refined or changed in any way, it will make someone feel bad”?
Or are you saying that only police that eventually did indeed use excessive force should be singled out so that you can use a time machine and go back and alter only their training?
If excessive force is routinely used by the NYPD wouldn’t you expect to see a parade of thousands of beaten up citizens? Brother Al could lead the parade. Pass out all the medical reports detailing the injuries inflicted by the police.
But that hasn’t happened because the over whelming majority of cops are doing their jobs correctly. The few bad ones need to be disciplined, retrained or maybe fired. Depends on the circumstances and what the bad cop did.
I totally agree the cops were abusive in the Garner case. The men responsible need to be held accountable. But thats what? 5 officers?
Slightly annoyed that I’d have to put in some work that’s not billable to clients, as was the case the last time my boss announced publicly that we all needed to be retrained. Was this a serious question?