minor anecdotes about famous people that creep you out.

“Negligence”? You’re using the everyday meaning of the word in a discussion of whether or not Laura Bush committed a crime, and you should know better. Negligence has a particular legal meaning:

You honestly think Laura Bush committed a crime? That she would have gone to jail if the cops didn’t know of her future marriage into the politcally connected Bush family?

I ddidn’t say she committed manslaughter, so I don’t know why you keep coming back to that. Whether she was convicted of anything is not relevant to whether what she did could be called “creepy.” She took a human life as a result of her own negligence in running a stop sign. It’s not important to me whther you want to call that negligence “criminal” or not, but where I come from, running a stop sign actually is against the law.

The cause of he accident is unknown. There is no evidence that it was Kennedy’s fault.

Cite for a police report stating that she wasn’t drunk? From everything I’ve read, she was never tested at all.

If it can’t be proved then you can’t accuse him of negligence. Hell, we don’t even know for sure that he was the one who was driving.

I think it’s about the same, but in Laura’s case, we KNOW it was her fault, in Kennedy’s case, we don’t.

I’m still wondering what the deal is with Zach Braff.

I never said Laura Bush “committed a crime.” Officially, she did not. That doesn’t change the fact that she killed somebody because she illegally (and negligently) ran a stop sign.

But if you are not saying that then you have no point. That was what the whole discussion was about. No one was claiming that the accident didn’t happen. So what was your point? That there was an accident? Too late, we were already having a discussion about it. Were you just chiming in with a me too?

When you are talking about legal issues you should use legal terms correctly or it reflects poorly on you.

Amen. It doesn’t matter how good looking she is if you aren’t getting any and her presence is preventing you from getting any from anyone else.

I know it’s not exactly PC, but I think that “Faithful” needs to go both ways. If you’re not putting out…EVER…then you are not being “faithful” in your relationship.

No, that is NOT what the discussion was about. It was NOT a legal discussion, it was a discussion about celebrities doing “creepy” things. The legalities of the Laura Bush story are irrelevant to its creepiness. Protesting that she wasn’t charged with anything is not a defense against its creepiness. She killed somebody because of her own negligence. Those facts remain undisputed.

Wait, first you say that she didn’t commit a crime, then you say that she illegally ran a stop sign. Is running a stop sign illegal or not? If you hold that it is illegal to run a stop sign how can you hold that she didn’t commit a crime?

Obviously she wasn’t charged, but you seem to think she should have been. Or do you? If you don’t think she should have been charged, then what ARE you saying?

Look, I’m not a mod and I’m not trying to mod here, but please guys, get your own thread. I want to continue to read creepy stories about celebrities without having to wade through this.

Harlan Ellison is, by all accounts including his own, a total ass. About James Doohan: He’s dead now, but I thought he never went to Star Trek conventions?

No it wasn’t. This is what it was about.

No one refuted the fact that the accident happened just it being called manslaughter. So were you just joining in with a “me too Laura Bush killed someone” or did you have a point?

Well, she wasn’t charged with manslaughter. It’s not in dispute that she ran the stop sign and (hopefully) no one is going to argue that just because she wasn’t charged for running a stop sign doesn’t mean itwasn’t illegal for her to do it.

My “point” was that it’s “creepy” that she’s the only First Lady who ever took a human life (and she wasn’t just a hapless victim of circumstance. The collision was indisputably her fault). I have no opinion about or interest in any debate on whether she should have been criminally charged.

He once said about his vegetarianism: “I still sing My Bologna, but I don’t mean it”.

Only that whining about whether it was technically a “crime,” doesn’t diminish its creepiness.

No problem.

Did you ever hear the one about Rod Stewart getting his stomach pumped?

I can’t exactly say why, but knowing that the actress who played the little girl in Escape to Witch Mountain is Paris Hilton’s aunt is creepy in different ways from the perspective of either of the two individuals.

This seems strange to me. Bruce died in 1973, and Seagal didn’t make his film debut until 1989. Hell, in 1973 he was only 21 or so.

But he was still a nutjob.

I saw him at one in Chicago many years ago.

I wonder if he meant Brandon Lee. I know Seagal went to that one.