my bet is this bodyguard is either the Architech (making him and Oracle evil) or less likely a super goodguy who guards the Oracle because rogue Smith is on the loose. (bodyguard had the white code, so he is something odd.)
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If Neo is the 6th ‘One’ and the previous 5 took the other door, then why is Neo different? well he takes the door to save Trinity - this would suggest Trinity is in fact equally as important and ‘oneish’ as Neo - If you remember throughout the film Neo says things like ‘i cant do this without you’ - ‘i need you’ and this would a) make sense and b) provide a better plot twist than the matrix within a matrix
i think the zion matrix is a too ‘obvious’ device laid down by the directors to make their plot twist for revolutions more unseen. I see no reason why agent smith who is now ‘free’ and able to replicate couldn’t ‘inhabitat’ a body - remember he doesn’t kill them (as far as we know) so to me this evidence of second level matrix is a little too planted.
Neo stopping the sentinanls - this is much harder to explain, when neo says ‘somethings different i can feel them’ he almost looks worried and slighlty disturbed as if he has realised they are still in the matrix. But if Neo is the one, and he rejected the choice of rebuilding zion then possibly he becomes more atuned with his real world as A) the sentinals have never had to fight further than this and b) Neos powers have developed because he rejected the architect.(maybe the architect himself gave him these powers to help him have a chance - .i.e make them meet again and convince him to rebuild)
Overall i thought it was a fantastic movie in terms of action and drama, the plot while complicated should still be slighltly applauded as although sometimes pretentious (french guy - pretentious - why does that sound right:P ) it deals with a very interesting topic of choices etc very well (a theme to be echoed (surely) in RoTK i might add) and certainly helps keep a sensibly enough storyline continuing as a backdrop to spectacular stunts.
All right, here’s another question about the matrix in general. In the first movie, we see all of the the humans in these little pod-like things. Therefore, we can pretty much come to the conclusion that the actual human bodies had no contact with eachother outside of the matrix. Because of this, they would have had no way or need to develop any sort of immunity against diseases or even the common cold. However, once they are out of this area and in the real world, they would have had contact with other humans. Therefore, why aren’t they susceptible to pretty much everything?
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Them being still in the matrix is far too obvious a dumb plot twist, and i hope the creators aren’t that stupid. More likely since Neo is just a tool of the matrix makers, then he has special robot powers that he can now use because of his realization he is just a pawn. Normally those powers would be used to protect the first group of humans released to found the new Zion, but this Neo can use them to save the old Zion.
4: I remember being very confused by this scene. I think I concluded that the whole thing took place in the Matrix, so the envelope didn’t have to be transferred at all, it just stayed within the matrix. Could be totally wrong.
Do you often clean wounds with pliers?
Sockets aren’t wounds. And that tool didn’t really look like pliers.
In any case, they don’t actually show the sockets being removed, and I don’t think it was their intention to imply it. That’s just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Here’s what I don’t get.
Is Neo actually a human, or is he just a program?
Were any of those humans-in-pods actually real, or were they all just part of a program (a matrix within a matrix, sort of. Or the reverse)?
Because if there have been six Neos born, all identical, how are the machines creating those humans-in-pods? Are they cloning them? In which case, why don’t they just stop making the Neo clone?
I await some grail-legend-derived true blood rubbish in the third film as adumbrated by the “Merovingian” bollox and all the some-what-less-than-subtle “significant” close ups of blood at various places. Probably something to do with computer code and DNA, and man and machine merging, or never actually having been separate species in the first place.
Who said they were all identical? We don’t know anything about the previous Ones. And anyway, they need the one to eventually reboot the Matrix so the percentage of the population that doesn’t accept it doesn’t grow too large.
Because Agent Smith was on the architect’s side in the first one, but he is now against everyone and a significant power. She’s sort of on the architect’s side, right? “It’s an action movie, and he’s good action” seems like the best explaination now.
I always took this to mean that the system “crashed,” like the architect said it would, and Neo/The Sentinels were still plugged in, nothing else. That would explain why he passed out, too. My friend’s opinion, (or rather, question), having slightly better eyesight than mine and an equal irrationality in thought, asked if the Nebuchanezzar’s crew had anything other than flashlights on them, because it looked “more like 80’s SMG-on-Robot” effects than an EMP, and Trinity was pointing something in their direction. That EMP possibility had to be introduced to both of us.
Isn’t the whole silver bullets thing part of the mythos of werewolves and vampires? Wooden stakes, silver bullets, holy water, flaming crosses…all these things can kill the “mythical” monsters in our world (or the 1999 of the Matrix). People don’t really believe in ghosts and vampires and werewolves, but the Matrix used these “beings” as their “agent” programs or whatever. They were used to manipulate and control the people inside the Matrix, but in such a way as to seem to be mere myth, so when people noticed them, it was kind of accepted that they weren’t real. It is a neat and convenient explanation for the paranormal phenomenon that occurs around us in the real world. I think this is one of those moments in the movie where you are supposed to think of your world as being inside the Matrix.
Everyone who says that the holes were largely gone is WRONG. Simple as that. You are wrong if you think that. End of story. Here’s proof.
After the people on Morpheus’s ship are COMPLETELY DONE with Neo, after he is walking around freely, after he has met everyone and learned all about the war and the ship and so on, he is inserted with Morpheus into “The Construct”, the program where they can load whatever they want. Neo is incredulous about the fact that he’s in a computer system. Morpheus asks him if it’s really so hard to believe and he points out several things. For example Neo’s hair is back, and he specifically makes a comment about Neo’s holes being gone. He specifically says they are gone from his arms among other places, and Neo briefly feels his arm. This shows that he did have those holes, and those are some of the most obvious ones on the body (so you’d think if they were getting rid of them they would start with those). Period. You’re wrong if you disagree.
Are you suggesting that Zion is not a matrix, except for right after Neo crashed it and supposedly left? So the Zion matrix is only the scene when Neo was waving his hand to stop the sentinels. This is a most interesting take.
What about Tank?
It said he died, yet when he was last seen in the Matrix he was alive (if slightly charred).
He’s been killed in the six months since the events of the first movie - which is what Marcus Chong gets for asking more than $125,000 a movie, apparently.
They looked pretty identical in the scene with all the TV screens…
There is a decent chance the Merovingian’s car was armored. He’d probably try to ahe somethign like that if he could.
Its a pretty logical step, since they can already make items to take iside the Matrix. Plus, the information wasn’t very much to remember, so its possible he just knew it.
No, those were all Neo. Look at their reactions: they all are acting like Neo, not other Ones. For example, they follow Neo to the right door. They all snap to attention when Trinity is mentioned. Every response is one aspect of Neo’s thought. Plus, there are a hell of a lot more than 5 of them.
Honestly, I wonered why people had a hard time understanding this movie. I thought it was perfectly obvious, but I keep seeing people make some obvious mistakes. I don’t say I’m error-free, but some of these questions make me sit there and wonder how people can not understand what’s going on. maybe the movie just struck a chord with me or something.
No, thats what he gets for acting like an idiot. Its complicated.
They need the One. If they didn’t have the One, they couldn’t reboot the Matrix. In fact, without the One, the Matrix crashes over time as people start to understand something’s not quite right with the World (I capitalized that on purpose. It was a joke only the animaphiles will understand). Even with the machine’s giving people the subconscious choice to face a painful, desperate world outside or the safe inside, problems still accumulate.
I’m partial to the idea that the “there is no spoon” stuff that they use in the matrix actually applies in the real world, and that all those Zen mystics of our world have been right all along. He’s able to take out the droids the same way he can take out agents in the Matrix, but, since this is the first time he’s used the power, it stings a little.
I didn’t know the Merovingian had a car. All I know is that the Keymaker stole the first car he could find from a car park somewhere in the city that he accessed using one of his keys.
This is kind of open it interpretation because of a few moments of reaction.
If you listen carefully you hear some interesting responses from the ‘Screen Neos’
My take is that the screens represent a combination of possible and prior responses to their interaction(s).