A large percentage, no doubt. Maybe even both of them.
There are plenty of black people who are very religious especially here in the south. I don’t know if they call themselves evangelicals, some probably do use that term.
I can’t answer for myself, but I’ll cite my dad. He’s a first-generation immigrant from Taiwan, and despises mainland China.
He’s essentially a single-issue voter, and that single issue is the U.S. relationship with Taiwan. So ever since Jimmy Carter de-recognized Taiwan in 1977 in favor of mainland China, he’s never voted for a Democrat.
He did try out the old “Trump is a businessman and that’s what we need” line, but he’s smart enough to understand that a) government and business don’t really have the same goals, and b) we lived in New Jersey for many years (I grew up there) and knew just what a crook Trump was, so that line of defense collapsed pretty quickly.
I don’t know if he still plans to vote Republican in 2020.
Keep in mind that over 60 million people voted for Trump and he won.
Why wouldn’t minorities support Trump? In the past four years wages for low income workers have increased faster than they have in at least a decade. Black and Hispanic unemployment are at all-time lows. Trump is actively outreaching to them.
A better question is why minorities still vote for Democrats? Democrats used to be the party of blue collar workers and working people’s unions. Now they are the party of elite college grads. Democratic policies like national minimum wage laws and open borders directly hurt minorities. Climate change policy tends to hurt the people in the lowest income brackets the most. Democratic initiatives like renewable energy and electric cars have no resonance with poor minority voters, They are more aligned with Republicans than Democrats on ‘social justice’ issues, especially around feminism and LGBT issues.
And as many blacks and hispanics ar pe coming to realize, their blind support for Democrats means the Democrats don’t have to work for their vote, so their needs are ignored.
If there is a tipping point and minorities start shifting to the GOP because Democrats no longer align with their needs and beliefs, the Dems are screwed. This is the problem with intersectionality and trying to build a party out of a coalition of minorities and special interests: at some point the groups in the coalition start diverging in goals, and it gets increasingly hard to keep them together.
I agree that the Democrats have not been doing a good job of meeting the needs of minorities, but luckily for them, the Republicans have doubled-down on hateful rhetoric, direct appeals to white supremacists/white nationalists, and other rhetoric that is abhorrent to most minorities (and white Americans who really care about opposing bigotry and hatred). The GOP is actually making it easier for the Democrats to ignore the needs of minorities, because they are becoming increasingly disgusting from the POV of Americans who care about fighting racism and bigotry. I wish we had two parties that cared about the needs of minorities, and cared about fighting racism, but we barely have one.
Do you anticipate that number will rise, fall or remain the same for 2020?
Look at all the democrats rushing to embrace the white girl from Sweden who’s pushing for the environment while ignoring black suffering in our inner cities.
Do democrats REALLY thing black people should see that LGBT issues are the same as the issues facing blacks? For example - some white teenager who was born a boy but now wants to be a girl - well schools should accommodate him/her if not, its the same as when blacks were not allowed to attend white schools - right?
On that same issue, we have one democratic candidate, O-Rourke, for president who openly says any church that will not support gay marriage should lose its tax free status.
Democrats are the party who want to take away a persons rights to purchase a handgun so a person can protect their family.
This sounds like a Trump campaign commercial, with about the same level of factual (in)accuracy. If you want to challenge any of the claims actually made by posters in this thread, feel free and you might get a response.
This says so much more about you than about any democratic party position, real or imagined.
I’d like to interject that raising taxes (directly ) and raising taxes indirectly (tariffs)
are taken vastly different, can you understand why?
I’ve met some, and with them it’s all about religion.
As a minority that thinks, I realize that when a lot of the progress is based on credit, one just can not give Trump credit.
That active part does require a change with his past reprehensible actions, so what about allowing minorities that served and defended America to remain in the armed forces or for **legal **residents to join the Army in the USA?
So, no, that and many other examples, such as keeping refugee kids in cages, are very peculiar forms of reaching…
That item is a bit ignorant, all the students from poor families getting jobs at the schools I work for, getting higher minimum wages by law in Arizona (12 dollars an hour this year) are not complaining. May I remind you what is the party that is more willing to support higher minimum wage laws?
Now that item is incredibly ignorant, particularly when the current policy is set by Trump and his gang…
Right now the energy and car bits are pushed by the more wealthy that are showing that they do put their money where their mouth is, their efforts are useful in the sense that the progress shows what new technologies will be able to scale up better and what then a more responsible government in the future will be able to subsidize, applying that to the poor and minorities.
This is like the second contradiction in a few lines. (here is a hint: making efforts in social justice is not “ignoring the needs of the poor and minorities”
Sounds like what will happen once the orange cancerous growth is removed. We will deal with the slight divisions once that takes place.
Ok you would prefer “Because anyone who votes for Trump is an idiot”?
Or would you prefer open dialogue and discussion?
Which would you learn more from OR do you NOT want to learn?
I do more than just “meet some” I work with them directly and hear what they are saying. Yes, religion is a big thing and when a democratic presidential candidate promises to take away a churches tax exemption because they dont agree with all the LGBT issues, people will object. Dont people have a right to their own moral values?
And look at Hollywood and all the filthy and immoral crap coming from it. Who does Hollywood support the most? Democrats. Wait till the next DNC convention and it will be a parade of all the Hollywoods most perverted. Hillary had Beyonce at her rallies. Remember Weinstein? He was a big DNC supporter and gave the democrats lots of money.
I know several, and I’ve met some. They say it’s about the economy and also about fiscally running the country with better accountability — you know, Mexico will pay for the wall.
The Democrats have actually improved on this, unlike the Republicans, who’ve gotten worse. The Democrats now kick out their abusers and harassers. The Republicans elevate and celebrate their abusers and harassers – currently celebrating the President, who has bragged about sexual assault and violations of women’s consent on multiple occasions.
No, the next democratic convention will have the usual parade of Hollywood celebrities and they will be celebrated no matter how perverted and disgusting their movies or music is. Heck remember at Trumps inauguration when Bill Clinton was caught checking out Ivanka Trump.
Trump hasnt said those things for a long time so I dont get where you think republicans celebrate it. Anyways maybe next time the dems shouldnt throw all their eggs in one basket named Hillary.
With advice that valuable, I’m surprised you’re just giving it away.
Income inequality has increased over the past few years thanks to the disastrous Republican tax cuts. Unemployment at record lows means little when your health insurance is about to be taken away. Actively outreaching to them? Perhaps, if you count ICE raids ripping Hispanic babies from their mothers’ breasts or calling for the execution of men who have been proven innocent.
Democrats still are these things. If you have health insurance, it’s either thanks to Obamacare or thanks to some union organizers who got beat up years ago getting it for your.
This makes sense only if you believe in Republican fairy tales.
I don’t think so. Renewable energy opens up opportunity for many good-paying jobs.
Minorities are not monolithic on these issues. Some are indeed resistant to gay rights, others relate to non-straights as being fellow sufferers at the hands of the majority.
Makes no sense. Who is trying to suppress minority votes and gerrymander them into insignificance? Who is trying to take health care away from millions of minorities? It isn’t the Democrats.
They will only shift to the GOP if they are stupid enough to believe their lies.
As opposed to building a party based on white nationalism and bigotry against all who are not straight white male Americans.