Yeah, immoral crap like A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood and Little Women.
And what’s wrong with Beyonce? I’m not a fan, but she doesn’t seem offensive.
The Dem platform isn’t a strategy to get the most votes out of the biggest base of voters possible as much as it is responding to the needs of the most people who need help and/or want to move the country forward. Yeah, we’re clumsy as hell in the way we go about it sometimes. But, regardless of race, people who want to move forward and solve problems will be more likely to vote Democratic. What’s the alternative? What are the GOP’s solutions that will lift all boats? Can minorities work with a party that has actively sought to disenfranchise them instead of winning them?
Trump has continuously and continually denigrated women, through the present, especially those women who spoke out about their experiences with him (i.e. the women who said he assaulted them). If you’ve missed this, it’s out in public for all to see, again and again – here’s an example: Trump Shrugs Off Rape Accuser as 'Not My Type.' Accuser Natasha Stoynoff Shoots Back: Your 'Type' Is Any Woman in Reach.
There are many others.
Most Republicans continue to support and celebrate an admitted sexual abuser who bragged about violating the consent of women and has been credibly accused of rape and sexual assault on multiple occasions over decades.
I’m sure you’d prefer to pretend this uncomfortable fact isn’t real, but that doesn’t change reality.
Are people going to stop going to church if churches no longer get a tax exemption?
Not at the expense of human rights they don’t. Fuck those moral values.
You think that shit goes on only in Hollywood? The church has been committing and getting away with immoral crap far longer than Hollywood.
And now he’s on trial for rape and will be going to jail and no amount of money is going to help him. You act like Republicans don’t have their share of scumbags. Should we compare notes or do you want to reconsider acting as if GOP shit don’t stink?
FTR, I think churches should get taxed like any other non-profits. And churches getting taxed won’t led people to stop coming. But to specifically tailor tax policy on the basis of LGBT beliefs is politically-motivated targeting. It would be akin to Republicans saying that all clinics that provide mammograms should be tax-free, except for those who promote abortion liked Planned Parenthood, which should be taxed.
It’s LGBTQ now, but I think it’s more about human rights in general rather than one specific group du jour.
Beto “O-Rourke” dropped out of the Democratic primary nearly two months ago.
Say it ain’t so. Hillary had a pop star at one of her rallies? Shocking! It’s a good thing Donald Trump and the Republicans would never pal around with some disgusting entertainer. Especially not one who was an open paedophile and who threatened to murder Clinton on stage.
The OP question is why do minorities support Trump. People like me who arent neccesarily democrats gave some responses. The OP wanted to learn (I guess/hope).
Why are you arguing with me and others? Why cant it just be “thank you for your insight/opinion” and leave it at that?
I mean this could just be a dem board where everyone races for the coveted “I Hate Trump the Most” award where everyone just agrees with each other but what good is that?
Whatever happened to listening and learning?
Y’know guys… “Explanation is NOT Justification.”
Someone answering why members of a minority group voted for Trump (be s/he insider or outsider), is not necessarily telling you it was RIGHT for them to have voted for Trump. They may be, but not necessarily.
OTOH, “because, Hollywood celebrities” is one pretty damn lousy explanation, when Trump himself is a professional tabloid celebrity.
Ok, you got me there.
Because the modern GOP is a white nationalist party that is actively hostile to the well being of non-whites, and no matter how much PR and disinformation the GOP throws at this issue, pretty much everyone knows and understands this fact. The GOP over the last 50 years has made a deal with southern white and rural whites to win their votes by supporting their regressive racial agenda.
The real question is why do so many white women vote GOP. Trump won about 57% of the white vote, but his share of the non-white vote was only as OP said about 8% for blacks, and about 1/4 of asians and latinos. But white women still love the GOP despite the hostility to things like reproductive rights.
However college educated white women, according to polls, are now supporting the democrats by nearly a 30 point margin in 2020.
This is what you wrote:
In what way does the above address the OP question about minorities voting for Trump?
Because it sounds very much like every concern ever expressed by a white conservative evangelical Trump voter.
a lot of religious folks would probably vote for Jerry Sandusky if he was anti abortion.
Black unemployment fell faster under Obama than Trump. The LA Times had an article back in May about how black unemployment was on the rise again. Because of Trump’s tariffs manufacturing has been in recession for months and farm bankruptcies have skyrocketed. Trump hasn’t been good for the working class.
Scholars.org has an interesting article titled “UNDER DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS, MINORITIES MAKE ECONOMIC GAINS - AND SO DO WHITES” that says “Across the years of Democratic leadership, black poverty declined by a net of 23.6 percentage points, but grew by three points when Republicans held the White House.”
And this makes sense when you think about it. Democrats push for a higher minimum wage, affordable healthcare, affordable childcare, affordable college, etc. all things that people of any race trying to work their way into the middle class benefit from.
The biggest problem facing blacks is not that Democrats take advantage of them. It’s that Democrats don’t get elected to the presidency often enough. As a result, black poverty isn’t falling as fast as it could falling.
Many white women are bigots. They grew up in the same households as conservative white men. They are not feminists. There is no mystery.
He said it. Some blacks like some whites have not bought into the whole SJW thing and have no problem with Trump. Some like their company health insurance and don’t want to see the system bombed and rebuilt. Some like their church that has opposed SSM since it’s founding and don’t want to have to increase donations X% to keep the same level of church services. Some are anti-abortion. Some don’t favor LGBTQ, etc.
For the same reason many whites do. Just because someone is black does not mean that they tick off all of the boxes on the Democratic Party platform. That’s a good answer. I don’t understand why that is so hard to believe.
That is fair enough and I think correct. But all the boxes in the Democratic platform that they don’t tick off are far outweighed by these boxes in the Republican platform:
- Gerrymander black votes into insignificance
- Repeal the ACA and with it having children covered to age 26
- Purge black voters with some made up fig leaf justifying it
- Suspect every brown citizen of not being a citizen
- Put children in cages and rip suckling infants from their mothers’ breasts
- Destroy Social Security (an 80+ year crusade) and destroy Medicare (a 50+ year crusade)
- Gut environmental protections
- Bust unions
For most sensible people of all races, these Republican positions outweigh by far any concerns they may have with the Democratic platform.
Income inequality? Be careful where you get your data from. The published census data does not account for taxes and most welfare payments, and paints a distorted picture. Look, Trump is a jerk and a buffoon but the census data skews our views.
Certainly, you’re not arguing that income inequality isn’t growing?
Piketty, T., & Saez, E. (2014). Inequality in the long run. Science, 344(6186), 838-843.
Tsui, A. S., Enderle, G., & Jiang, K. (2018). Income inequality in the United States: Reflections on the role of corporations.
Saez, E. (2018). Striking it richer: The evolution of top incomes in the United States. In Inequality in the 21st Century (pp. 39-42). Routledge.
Saez, E., & Zucman, G. (2016). Wealth inequality in the United States since 1913: Evidence from capitalized income tax data. The Quarterly Journal of Economics, 131(2), 519-578.
Smith, A. D. (2019). Income Inequality, Polarization and Electoral Politics in the United States (Doctoral dissertation, Georgetown University).
Jones, C. I., & Kim, J. (2018). A Schumpeterian model of top income inequality. Journal of Political Economy, 126(5), 1785-1826.
And so on.