december:“precisely the same sort of complaints and accusations”? Not at all.
Yes, they are. You’re (now) arguing that it’s “hypersensitive” for people to complain about racism when no racially denigrating statements have been made. That applies to both cases.
There is nothing inherently racist about Dowd’s calling somebody she disagrees with—even a “leading black jurist” she disagrees with—“barking mad” or “crazy”, any more than there’s anything inherently racist about College Republicans publicizing a “black self-help” lecture in a Multicultural Center.
If it’s hypersensitive to complain about possible ulterior motives of disguised racism in the actions of the College Republicans, then it’s also hypersensitive to do the same thing about the criticisms by Dowd.
If you are really serious about opposing racial “hypersensitivity” and “charges based on flimsy pretexts”, then it’s time for you to leave off your whining that any criticism of black conservatives like Clarence Thomas—even intemperate or inaccurate criticism—must be racist. As I said above, your blatant hypocrisy in this regard only serves to undermine the principles of equality and fairness that you’re claiming to espouse.
*No man is an island, entire of itself;
Every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less…
Any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind…*
John Donne
If Ludovic wants to behave well toward others because it’s the right thing to do, not to stop bigotry on the other side, that’s OK with me. Whatever the reason, I applaud good behavior toward others.
monstro: Pointing out that you did not explicitly state this does not refute the claim that you implied it. When you say “My question: if black people promise to stop being hypersensitive, can the bigots promise to stop being hyperignorant? Hypersensitivity is only the by-product of being sick and tired. It’s not going away as long as overt racism and prejudice continue to exist”, it clearly implies that bigots being hyperignorant at least partially justifies hypersensitivity. And the whole point of me pointing this out was to respond to Stuffy’s statement that “All white people aren’t judged by the actions of David Duke and Fred Phelps of the world, why then do you support that treatment for blacks?” Now that you have explicitly stated that “They make white people look bad, in other words”, I do need to point to your implicit statements.
pizzabrat: that was the epitome of a strawman argument.
All groups are stereotyped by their worst members. All polititians are corrupt. All teens are hooligans. So on and so on. It’s human nature to associate groups with its worst members. We all do it. Yes, it’s wrong, but it’s the way things are, and the situation is certainly not limited to blacks.
The sarcasm was somewhat evident in the portion which december quoted, but the part that I quoted gave no indication of saracasm (I suspected it, but only because of what followed). If this was sarcasm, it was also trolling.