For that to be true, he would have had to start his “act” during the 1980’s.
That would make him the greatest ACTOR the world has ever seen, not just an American Hero.
The impression I got is that Mitt wasn’t talking to Trump fans. His words were meant for the Party Establishment, to encourage them to not give in to the Anti-Establishment crowd.
All this time, the Anti-Establishment people have been say, “We hate you, we’re voting for Trump, we want to burn it all down.” This is the Establishment replying, “Yeah, well, we hate you back and it’s our name on the bank account.”
The Republican party has, for decades, been an alliance between big business interests and social conservatives. By sticking the together, they had enough votes to comfortably control politics. But the social interests crowd has seen little return on their investment for the big business guys, at least by their lights, what with homosexual abortionists prancing through their wedding chapels, and the alliance is starting to fall apart.
The impression I got from Mitt’s speech was that he was telling his other business pals, “They may hate us, but they still need us, and if they want to fail on their own, maybe we should let them try it, for a bit.”
In other news, Romney is absolutely maneuvering to be the Hero at the convention -
I think Mitt Romney is the wrong GOP to speak out about Trump , Mitt is a 2 time losers and this only made him look jealous of Trump . I would rather had seen a GOP president speak out against Trump a long time ago. My governor
Charlie Barker who a GOP said he not voting for Trump after we had our primary . Why did people wait so long to speak out? I guess a lot of people really thought Trump wouldn’t get this far, I was worried he would get this far.
I feel Mitt may had helped Trump get more votes .
The only two alive are named Bush. I think it’s safe to assume that they did not support Trump.
Yes, he’d be the toast of every cosplay convention in Portland.
Nice post, Merneith. I hadn’t thought of it quite that way but you nailed it.
Not if what they are angry and frustrated about is a never-ending string of politicians who promise them that they are going to reform Washington, and then who subsequently go there and join the rest of the pigs at the trough. They could be voting Trump as a big ‘Fuck You’ to the Republican establishment.
They may not be under any illusions about Trump as a President - they just don’t care. They just want to smash the system. There’s more than a few of that type on the Democrat side too.
I know this but if they don’t support Trump it would had nice if they had the balls to say so .
A couple probably basic questions:
If Trump gets 1,237 delegates, it cannot be brokered; does Trump automatically becomes the nominee?
If Trumps gets only 1,236, it becomes brokered. They can ignore the clear majority over all the states? And pick a 3rd-place finisher (like Rubio over Cruz) or someone completely new (like Romney)?
You mean “plurality”.
Yes, and that’s wrong. That’s stupid.
While the system works in ways that are sometimes flawed, that are sometimes weird, that are sometimes against my beliefs, it still works. It’s not a perfect system, nobody is claiming that it is. Smashing it is not the solution; improving it is. Regardless of whether the improvement is from your point or mine, that should be our goal.
You (general “you” from here on) want to smash the system? Fine. Explain to me what you’re going to replace it with and convince me that it will be better. We always have had a system. We always will have a system. Government is an inescapable aspect of human social organization.
Romney - McCain 2016!
Well, since the son of one and the brother of another was running for President. . . Well, shit, I need to spell it out for you? Bush the Elder is in horrible health and has been doing basically nothing; Bush the Younger appeared in a campaign event for Bush the Other Younger.
Essentially, as I understand it, yes. Although I think that if Trump is still close to that magic number, he can be challenged at the Convention. There is also a difference between delegates gained through primaries and those gained at Caususes. I need to dig into that bit.
There is not. You may be thinking of the selection process for caucus states, which generally have two more levels to pass through. Once the delegates are selected for the convention, there is no difference.
That, and that when he’d drop out they’d want to pick up some of his followers and maybe an endorsement.
Any regular politician will only scorn a segment of society’s votes if they are (a) numerically and economically insignificant and (b) already despised by society, at the level of the Nazi Party and NAMBLA.
This whole situation abounds in irony. The party establishment wasn’t happy about either McCain or Romney for the simple reason that they had a history as moderates. In short, they weren’t crazy enough. Now they’ve got a raving loon who says what they really think and they’re all going apoplectic. Why? It’s certainly not that they disagree with Trump’s policies, because they’re totally the conventional policies of the neocons. It’s that he’s breaking all the rules and not following the prescribed Republican playbook, whose cardinal rule is that you’re not supposed to actually say those things. It’s OK to believe that immigrants are scum and Muslims are all terrorists and women need to know their place, it’s OK to believe that you should be aggressive and arrogant with other countries and bomb the ones you don’t like, and all the other stuff he’s been saying, but you’re supposed to use the prescribed code words and not come right out and say it.
Trump has horrified the Republican establishment for precisely the same reason that he’s endeared himself to the dumbass contingent of the Republican base – because he actually does say those things, plainly and loudly. Republicans have been masters at crafting the language of code words and dog whistles, and Trump threw it all away. Trump’s platform is all the dirty laundry of the far right, unadorned, undisguised, out in the bright light for all to see. Of course they have to denounce him. But there’s nothing they can do about the fact that their own base is loving it.
Well said.
If Trump was a crazy conservative the party would be fine with him. He’s a lifelong Democrat. He’s Mitt Romney if Romney was a mean drunk.
Are you suggesting that all the hysterics the Republican leadership are having, all the venom being directed against Trump, all the attempts to block him at any cost, the breaking of ranks to the extent that it’s tearing apart the very fabric of the Republican Party, is all because he’s not conservative enough? Really? Is that why he’s so popular with the wingnuts of the far right? Because he’s not conservative enough?
Or is the real problem that Trump is saying what they really think, the rubes and the wingnuts are eating it up and propelling him to the nomination, and the GOP leadership is terrified of what this says about their party and its base?