Everything I’m reading says Bautista was called out by 6.01j.
Included in the definition of a bona fide slide is the runner “not changing his path for the purpose of initiating contact with a fielder.” Bautista clearly did that. The new rule was properly applied.
I don’t see anything in 5.09 that applies.
“5.09 The ball becomes dead and runners advance one base, or return to their bases, without liability to be put out, when- …”
Thirded. Bautista may not have actually affected the throw that much, but he clearly intentionally tried to, so he’s got no cause to complain.
Much as it hurts to admit it,the Yankees have a lot greater reason to complain, though there’s an argument either way in their situation.
Wow, what a bad day for the Jays:
Josh Donaldson is “day to day” with a calf sprain, a euphemism for “he’s hurt worse than we’ll admit,” and
They lose a game in baffling fashion except this team it’s not a rule, it’s the manager went insane.
In the eighth the Jays are holding a 3-2 lead and they turn to… someone named Arnold Leon, who I honestly forgot was on the team. Why exactly Leon is on the team I am not sure, but whatever, you need someone making the MLB minimum to pitch garbage time. Except of course it’s not garbage time; it’s the eighth inning of a 3-2 game.
So… the Blue Jays went out this offseason and got Drew Storen, whose job, as a Grade A reliever who isn’t the closer, is to pitch close games. Storen has pitched one inning so far this year and it wasn’t yesterday. So why was he not summoned to pitch? No one knows. Why would you put in your 11th best pitcher to protect a one run lead when you have a fresh ace ready to go?
Just to see how he’d do. Or maybe Storen told the manager he didn’t feel ready to go. Or maybe the pitcher had a good minor league record against the batters coming up. Or whatever.
Geez, if you’re going to cry about every game the Jays lose, it’s going to be a long season, because they’re going to lose between 54-81 games this year.
Hell, if I have a one-run lead in the 8th, I want my “closer” in there now, for two innings.
Obviously, because if they pitched him today, he wouldn’t be available tomorrow. :smack:
(For those who haven’t memorized the Jays’ schedule, they have an off day tomorrow. And even if they did, what situation could possibly arise tomorrow that would be more important than a 1 run lead?)
Surely the eighth inning of a one run game isn’t the best time for that?
If you aren’t going to use your best relief pitchers in the very situations they are most valuable, why do you have them at all?
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I don’t see anything in 5.09 that applies.
“5.09 The ball becomes dead and runners advance one base, or return to their bases, without liability to be put out, when- …”
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I do not believe you are referring to the current set of rules, which is reordered and renumbered. Rule 5.09 is now the section on making an out; it used to be numbered 6.05. Sorry, I wasn’t at all clear on which version I was referring to.
The new 5.09, which is a combination the old 6.05 and 7.08, refers, confusingly, to the new 6.01. 6.01a states a runner has committed interference if he “… hinders or impedes any following play being made on a runner. Such runner shall
be declared out for the interference of his teammate.” This is the same rule as the old 7.08.
Bautista also violated 6.01j, I think, because it says a slide is not valid if the runner is “throwing his arm” in an effort to initiate contact with the fielder. However, you didn’t need that rule to call him out; he was still out under the old rule.
What’s different now is they have instant replay. Ten years ago it would not have been called in real time - as indeed it was not last night - and that would have been the end of it except everyone watching on TV would have seen the replay and said “Jesus, he reached out and grabbed his leg and the ump missed that?” Now, however, Kevin Cash can demand a review to get the call right.
The tweet introducing it uses the word “grazes,” as in “his hand grazes Forsythe’s foot.”
I like the Jays and would be delighted if they repeated as AL East champs, but “graze” really is not the word we should be looking for here. “Grabs,” perhaps, but “grazes…” hmm.
Dodgers become the second team in Major League history (Cardinals, 1963) to start a season with three consecutive shutouts. Of course, it was against the Padres so it probably shouldn’t count.
And the Padres became the first team in MLB history to start a season with three consecutive shutout losses.
27 innings; 11 hits; no runs.
Yeah, I saw griping about this in my Facebook feed today and I was with the person griping up until the end of slide where he clearly reaches out and grabs Forsythe’s foot. From my end, and I have no dog in this fight, that was blatant and interference under the old rules. New rule claims its first victim my ass.
Well at least I was completely and totally wrong. I’m trying to not get excited about the first three games since I’m not sure if the padres are still a major league club or if they got demoted to AAAA ball in the off season but our non-kershaw pitchers aren’t the worst in the world and we’re getting hits and runs so overall I’m pretty happy.
Philadelphia Phillies v Reds game 1: Jeremy Hellickson allows 1 run in 6 innings. Phils end up losing 5-2
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Philadelphia Philles v Reds Game 2: Aaron Nola allows 1 run in 7 innings. Phils end up losing 3-2.
Bullpens gonna be a problem . . . .
Don’t forget that the cumulative score for those three games was 25-0. I believe the Padres are trying to become the first team to be mathematically eliminated from the playoffs before its mathematically possible to be mathematically eliminated. I think black holes are involved somehow.
Just kidding. They’ll turn it around. Go Padres! :rolleyes:
What was even more fun about the game was watching Kenta Maeda in his first MLB start:6 shut-out innings, 0 walks, and a home run. As the commentators noted, he should have apologized to Cashner for the homer, not for being late to bat.
Well, division by zero (number of wins or runs) might lead there.
I dunno. Someone’s gotta be worst. The Pod People have worked quite hard to stake an early claim. 
Cubs outfielders collide and give up inside the park homer
Kyle Schwarber looks like he hurt his knee real bad
http://m.cubs.mlb.com/chc/video/v578074983
dang
at least the Cubs gave us two games of happiness this year before this started 
And then gave up 12 runs to the Giants today.
Including a grand slam by Buster Posey…'s good friend, Hunter Pence.
Maybe Hall-of-Fame broadcaster Jon Miller should have done one or two more Spring Training games…
That was a particularly painful game. I really want to see Alex Wood succeed. I’ve liked him since he was a prospect. But that meltdown was bad. It’s too early to judge and he isn’t the only pitcher to have given up runs that game, but the 5th and 6th innings yesterday were worrying.
