It was nice to have some fire on the team. In the 70s that was probably Lou Pinella. He was also, actually a team leader. In the clubhouse he was the guy that would throw the players meeting when things were going bad.
But I agree, Plaque, hell yes. Retired Number, too much unless he ends up giving us 20+ good years in the booth like Scooter did. He’s off to a good start.
Guidry should be in based on 1978 alone.
Dave Winfield. Both played 9 years in NY. Winfield racked up a higher WAR, higher OPS+, appeared in 8 All Star games as a Yankee compared to O’Neill’s 4, and won 5 Gold Gloves while O’Neill was notoriously bad at defense. But, zero championships for Winfield.
He wasn’t exactly a fan favorite and no Rings. “Mr. May” is not a likely candidate for Yankees retirement. They did give him a day though. I was there for it. Ricky Henderson probably meant more to the fans than Winfield.
Rickey didn’t win a ring in NY and wasn’t there long.
I forgot Lefty Gomez, a teammate of Red Ruffing. Also very accomplished and in the Hall of Fame for his achievements with the Yankees.
I didn’t suggest Rickey deserved retirement, just that he was a more popular player than Winfield. Despite less time and lower overall numbers.
I did mention Lefty above. He is the 3rd, 4th or 5th best starter the Yanks ever had. Whitey Ford, Red Ruffing then debate 3 next 3 lefties. Lefty, Guidry and Pettitte. My Dad would’ve said Lefty, I’m not as sure.
That’s a weird take on these guys, defensively. O’Neill was just average, but still far better than Winfield. Where are you getting ‘notoriously bad’ from?
O’Neill was not very good. Not sure how notorious he was.
Yankee players of the great 1996-2004 teams, if you believe the advanced metrics, had a stunning number of bad fielders. If you believe Baseball Reference, that string of winning teams was bad - often really, really bad. Bad EVERY YEAR except 1998. I… find that really hard to believe, that a team with substandard defense could win that consistently. Maybe there is an illusion in Yankee Stadium.
Winfield certainly had a fine reputation as a defensive player. His advanced metrics say he was poor, though.
I feel like it was pretty well known that O’Neill was a bad defender. There’s a reason his baseball reference page says Bats: Left / Throws: Left / Kicks: Left
“Notorious” goes a little further than people knowing he was old.
More Yankee greats who haven’t had numbers retired but seem better than Paul:
ALLIE REYNOLDS went 131-60 with the Yankees, 7-2 in the World Series. He was a six time All- Star and a critical rotation fixture of the five straight World Series wins. He would have been MVP of the 1952 World Series had they had the award then.
EARLE COMBS is actually in the Hall of Fame and played his entire career in New York. He isn’t a great HOF choice but, still, he had a hell of a career and was the leadoff man and center fielder for a great, great team. Earle Combs did a lot more for the New York Yankees than Reggie Jackson did.
WILLIE RANDOLPH is in my opinion probably the most underrated New York Yankee of all time. Actually, he’s one of the most underrated baseball players of all time. He was HOF-quality and no one ever talks about him anymore. He was a terrific defensive second baseman who got on base a lot and ran the bases wonderfully.
Willie played 2202 games but it took him 18 years to get there; he was a little hurt more or less every season. Only once did he ever played 150 or more games in a season, so as a result he never scored 100 runs - he has a lot of seasons with numbers like 99, 96… his average games per seasons was 122. If you bump that up 15 games he’d have over 2500 hits and might well be in the Hall now.
JOE GORDON - Short career (in part due to two years spent in the Pacific War) but Joe Gordon was an AWESOME player; in the six seasons with the Yankees prior to WWII he was one of the very best players in the league, a perennial MVP candidate, actually winning the award once. Won the World Series four times in New York. Absolutely a Hall of Famer and he did most of his damage with the Yankees.
CHARLIE KELLER - Similar career path to Gordon’s, a truly elite player for six years with New York and missed a year to WWII. Keller in his first run was clearly on the path to being not just a Hall of Famer but way above the minimum standard. After WWII, though, he was almost never healthy. A much better player than Paul O’Neill.
TONY LAZZERI - Lazzeri is another Earle Combs; he’s in the Hall almost entirely as a Yankee and while he is very marginal as a Hall of Famer, this guy was one hell of a baseball player and helped many Yankee teams win many games. I don’t know how many good-fielding second basemen hit .292 and averaged 111 RBI every 162 games but it can’t be too many.
That’s one of the greatest plays in baseball history!
Not enough to retire his number; then again I don’t favor retiring numbers in general.
Derek Jeter is stepping down as CEO of the Miami Marlins. He’s also surrendering his 4% stake in ownership of the franchise.
It’s effective immediately.
MLB worked late last night and are much closer to an agreement.
A glimmer of hope the season will start on time.
Suppose to resume talks this morning.
What does this mean in practical terms?
Jeter was given a stake of only 4% in the franchise – a stake he will now give up – but was tasked with running business and baseball operations.
He is no longer associated with the Marlins at all. The MLB channel might already be talking to him about taking an on air job in fact.
So much for that.
One of the things the teams offered was “Expanded Postseason: 12 teams in each league, with the top two Division winners in each league receiving a bye. Postseason Players Pool would be increased by approximately $15 million from additional games, while 50 additional players would receive Postseason shares each year.”
They can’t be serious about 12 in each league. That would leave out only three teams in each league. They must have meant 12 total 6 in each league. With 6 in each league and two byes, you effectively have 8 teams for a single elimination playoff.
sounds like they tried to crib the NBA playoffs in which you have to be seriously under .500 not to get in …
Or like the NHL in the 1980s, in which 16 teams out of the 21 total teams in the league would qualify for the playoffs.
Yes, it’s 12 total. The first round is a best-of-three, not single elimination.