Women talk about periods, bras, and breast cancer screenings in real, public life all the time. Douching, sex, birthing, and bowel movements, too. Perhaps they don’t talk about them with you, but I assure you, we all talk about these things.
Righto, but you understand why that logic is particularly worrisome to many on the board, right? Granted, I doubt many of our posters are walking around pantsless with a crucifix Brazilian, but I think it’s reasonable to understand why the “she’s asking for the comments through her slutty behavior” stuff is going to be extrapolated out to the rest of our experiences. I once had someone tell me I was “asking for it”— I was 14 and “it” was a teacher trying to sexually assault me. My crime? Wearing a low cut shirt. Oh, and the person lecturing me? A school councilor. This attitude you’re displaying permeates far deeper into society than you think and that is why many of us would like to see it moderated when it can be.
That should be on you then. You shouldn’t be able to mold the forum into your personal paradise, but that’s exactly what’s happening. And it’s as disgusting as the behavior you wish to inhibit.
Who said she’s attractive? I’ve never seen her face or any other body parts.
But if she’s wandering around without pants and thinking that this protects her from being mocked for it, she’s wrong. Ditto with the male flasher at the Oscars–the more this kind of drivel is mocked, the less we’ll have of it.
And a bimbo, to me at least, is a dumb woman who uses her sexuality to try to get stuff because she’s too dumb to do it any other way. Note that I called the oscar flasher guy a “himbo”.
PS–please not that I’m on your side regarding “boobs? pix!” type jokes directed at other posters. Those are almost always out of line–but not pointing and laughing at a moron who tries to use her (or his) naughty part to try to make a complex political point? We disagree on that one.
And this is the point you, and others, have continually failed to grasp. I am not defending crude sexual jokes and comments against women–or men (something you omitted). And what the hell do you mean by my crude jokes? Please show me what crude jokes I have made–I don’t recall having made any, ever.
What I am defending is the ability to say things. I am not a fan of censorship, and that’s exactly what’s happening here. Your post is offense, because apparently defending the ability to perform an action is not only an endorsement of those actions, but also means I’ve participated in those same actions (for the record, I have not), but I won’t start a petition to ban your false accusation.
I think you’re getting too worked up. You also have the ability to say lewd or disrespectful things in real life to women, but you don’t (presumably). What’s so hard about not doing that here too?
Everybody who posts here is entitled to their opinion about what the board is and how it should work. And let’s steer this thread away from comments about who and what is disgusting (because it’s sexist or because it’s no fun) - there has been way too much of that kind of stuff in the last half-dozen threads about sexism/misogyny. We’re trying to have a useful discussion about the issue and how we can handle it.
I mean, granted, it’s Wiki, but the definition of Bimbo seems to imply attractiveness. But I suppose that’s neither here nor there.
And I feel ya, I know you aren’t supporting the requests for titties. I also get where you’re coming from with the mocking. I suppose all I’m saying is that you can mock her for being an idiot as dumb as the day is long without talking about fucking her.
So, you think talking about medical problems is the same as making jokes about fucking?
So I can’t equate things now? I would describe unnecessary censorship using many of the same words others have used to describe the subject matter in this very thread. Why is one topic okay to use such words, but the other isn’t?
Why is it also okay to accuse me of making posts I haven’t made, but not to call someone’s efforts what they are?
Incidentally, I didn’t ask anything in my original reply to you (the one you quoted in full and responded to), so I’m not sure what query you think you were answering for me before.
If you’re not a fan of censorship in the way it’s happening here, you have some odd ideas about social interactions. This is censorship in the same way it’s censorship that you’re not allowed to stand up and yodel obscenities at a quiet, romantic restaurant. You’re being asked not to act rudely.
Huh–my def. doesn’t agree with wiki, so if nothing else, I’m in the minority here.
Can we compromise about crude jokes about her um…organs (I’m on a work computer here) exactly like the ones we’d make about men (“could park an airplane in there” vs “obvious shortcomings”, for example)? but no comments that border on implying that sexual assault is ok? If so, we’re in agreement.
(and…earlier today, would you have guessed that you’d be involved in this sort of negotiation/discussion? I would not have. )
If not, we may be at an impasse: if you’re showing your naughty bits, your naughty bits are targets for mocking, IMO.
Yeah, I still have no idea what you’re talking about. You posted a false equivalence that seems to have no relation to. . . anything. Yes, dudes make sexual comments in life, we all understand that— most dudes also temper these discussions in real life because to not do so would be rude. That has zero to do with the idea presented that women don’t talk about their reproductive functions in real life, so doing it here is inviting requests to fuck us.
This message board is not a quiet romantic restaurant, or anything close to a virtual equivalent. Any singular post is not any “louder” than the rest. Also, real-life doesn’t have a handy ignore button that many seem to forget exists here.
Around you. You do realize people often speak of things outside your immediate presence, yes?
Here’s the thing … I’m a generally couth individual. I wouldn’t pop into a thread about breast cancer so I can quip, “nice yabo’s,” but I got a minor slap-down for responding to a description of a hot girl in a micro-mini-skirt and a shear top by saying, jokingly, “I’ll need to see pictures.”
Is that the sort of vapors-inducing offence that you just can’t stomach at the Dope anymore? Because if it is, I’ve got sour news for you. I’m still gonna post shit like that. You know why? Because, in **Diosa’s **words, it’s appropriate to.
See – I get to decide what’s appropriate just like you do.
Yeah, it is something close to the virtual equivalent. Namely, it’s a private establishment welcome to kick anyone out for nearly any reason, run by proprietors who would like to establish a certain tone. If you wouldn’t object to the restaurant attempting to establish that tone, complaining about “censorship” when a board tries to establish that tone is silly.
Do you think we’re unaware of that button? We’re not. We know about it. Many people find it a less attractive solution than getting people to knock off with the obnoxious commentary in the first place.
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