It’s okay, so far you’re professed that you have absolutely no idea why a naked woman, with a design shaved into her pubic hair to catch attention, handing out things whose only use is to have sex for pleasure rather than procreation, was doing something sexual.
You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason their way into in the first place.
You and I both have absolutely no idea what comments were even made and yet you are able to determine whether I find them acceptable or not?
I don’t even know if I find them acceptable, I don’t understand how you were able to do that.
Morality has nothing to do with it, just logic.
I understand I can’t inherently know what other people may want or not want without asking all of them.
Because I realize the limits of my knowledge, and because I accept that my humble opinion and my view of the world may be very different from others and not acceptable to them, I am careful not to attempt to force my opinion on others by attempting to mold the board in my image.
When you attempt to eliminate things like “gross jokes”, you are operating under the assumption that your opinion trumps all others.
I personally just skip any forum, thread or post that I don’t particularly want to read.
I might be able to do that over the next few days. I don’t remember the names of all these threads or when or who posted what. I just remember the, ‘‘Okay, I’m going to go crawl in a hole and die now’’ feeling that came from reading them. The last time something like this happened, it wasn’t in the form of jokes but rather verbal attacks on the victims/hijacking because women discussed the need to be more careful around strange men after their experience of sexual assault. The whole thing was derailed by outraged men with totally misplaced anger (and I’m not saying misplaced anger doesn’t happen the other way around… this whole debacle has really opened my eyes to the extremes of opinion coming from both camps) In my opinion that was far worse than the more recent comment made by Drunky Smurf. I remember that one because I took a 3 month Dope break when it happened.
My argument isn’t dependent on the number of times these comments occur. My argument is that these comments are actually a lot more hurtful than those making them realize. I am not in favor of moderating everything that everyone finds offensive. I’m probably fairly moderate in terms of what personally offends me. But I think those instances are particularly egregious. And instead of, you know, modding, it would be great if folks would just listen and try to remember that the next time the subject comes up.
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It is a supposedly “jocular” comment about erotically spanking someone. Seems to me like the only “humor” value of the comment lies in the fact that such a “spanking” is almost certainly not something that this nude protestor would enjoy.
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Really? I mean, really really? The humor value is that ever since people were 12 years old they have liked to make stupid sex jokes. It was the equivalent of giggling because someone said ‘‘69.’’ I think it’s about that deep.
ETA: Hentor, I did not catch the Rush reference. Now all we need is rushgeekgirl!
Honestly, the strongest arguments for the anti position are made by some of the folks who are on the pro side here.
A half naked woman who wants you to look at her crotch, handing out condoms? Why… what could possibly be sexual about that?
And jokes about sex? Obviously people only make them because they’re really about rape.
Seems to me that if the Board and the Mods made a change, they have listened to what a whole bunch of people said they want or don’t want.
I really don’t see a sea-change coming down because one or two people got upset - seems to me that a WHOLE BUNCH of people got upset about some aspects of board culture and general attitude towards a group of people and the mods are now addressing it. Which, in my opinion, is a damn good thing. This didn’t happen in a vacuum, folks.
You are perfectly welcome to your interpretation of these comments. As you are now aware, not everyone shares your interpretation.
I’m glad we had this talk.
Yeah, some people have the very, very rational point that joking about having sex with someone who might not be into you really means that the funny bit is that you’d rape her. In fact, it’s not just a rational interpretation, in fact it evinces an understanding of the dynamics of humor that’s obviously transcendent. Why, when I found out that Jeri Ryan was single and I said “damn, now I’ve got a shot” I really meant “… to rape her!”
Mwahahahahaha.
Handing out condoms is not inherently sexual. Being nude in public view is not inherently sexual. Handing out condoms while being nude in public view is not inherently sexual.
Just because something happens to sexually arouse you does not make it inherently sexual. If you disagree, feel free to head to the nearest nude beach and make loud comments about sunbather’s bodies.
Sorry, but public nudity isn’t a turnon for me.
Your mindreading powers need work, again.
Maybe that whole “this is what I think and other people must feel the same as I do!” thang isn’t working out for you?
And do you really still not grok the difference between a pickup line and something said on an anonymous message board that the ‘recipient’ will never even be aware of?
Yes, I’d say that pretty well sums up this discussion.
Also: “grok”
I don’t really disagree with any of this and I don’t really disagree with the OP of this thread (as I stated previously).
I do disagree with the extremism shown by a small minority regarding these topics in general.
I also think the naked lady thread and the sorority email thread should be fair game for sexual comments or any other comments - and I assume the moderation on those types in the future will be more relaxed than those two were - that they just happened at the wrong time when the issue was new.
I’ll let that be the final piece of obnoxiousness in this thread. Warning issued.
I’m not going to prohibit discussion of these issues in any other threads. But I will say that we’re not going to have much patience with new threads that reopen this issue just so posters can keep slagging on each other. This isn’t the Pit, it’s the rules forum. Questions about rules enforcement make sense, attacks on other posters for immaturity/sexism/no-fun-ness are not welcome here.