Okay, let’s talk about this in ATMB.
In this thread, there is at least one poster who is blatantly trolling. They are not discussing in good faith. Their argument is not intended to further discussion but rather to sidetrack it in an incredibly dumb, dishonest way. It is insane troll logic at its finest.
And they keep on doing this. This facile non-argument has been their sole response to any discussion of this topic for quite some time. Anyone who’s had the displeasure of encountering this person in a thread about climate change has seen basically exactly that post - the exact same post he made 16 fucking times in one thread, regardless of who challenged him.
I reported this. Then, when that apparently did absolutely nothing, I asked the other posters in the thread to please stop engaging the person who is obviously trolling and arguing in bad faith unless he’ll do the absolute base minimum to establish that he has any intention in this thread beyond doing exactly that. Then I get told off.
Well let’s be really clear here. This guy is a troll. He’s not subtle. In fact, he’s incredibly blatant about it, in the way he keeps doing the exact same thing over and over again - you can find this exact same bullshit non-argument in threads about global warming going back years.
So the mods are really bad at spotting trolls. What’s more, it’s unacceptable to:
[li]Call a troll a troll[/li][li]Ask people to stop feeding the troll[/li][li]Ask the troll to leave the thread if he won’t show he’s arguing in good faith[/li][/ul]
This is a bad combination. It means it’s basically just trivial for bad-faith actors to come in and disrupt any conversation they want.
And no, the ignore list does not help. Unless there’s general consensus that the person is a troll and he’s ignored by basically everyone (in which case why haven’t you guys cottoned on?), chances are good the thread is still going to be sidetracked, because that’s, ultimately, the goal of trolling. It’s to disrupt the discussion. And “say something stupid that people want to respond to” is trolling 101. An ignore list does not help against a troll. Case in point, a quote from someone I’d rather not put on my ignore list:
I think it’s trivial for any person here to look at that thread and notice that a certain someone is not arguing in good faith, keeps repeating the same nonsensical bad-faith argument, and refuses to engage with actual questions. It’s really frustrating to deal with. Can we do something about this?