I’m not sitting through a 10 minute video right now, but I’ve seen that video before and I don’t recall any mention of Obama or voting and certainly nothing that would indicate that she’s a liberal. I think the author of that article must have hallucinated that part.
For that matter, there’s nothing to indicate she’s a conservative. Although I suppose it could be argued that the type of anti-government hyper-freedom (I coined a term!) they espouse would be more in line with conservatism than liberalism.
I’d be surprised to discover that the sovereign citizen crowd were registered voters of any kind - you’d think being on that sort of government list would be anathema to them.
I would really like the SD’s opinion, especially pkbites and Loach on the third to last clip (stand alone video here)
Long story short, driver is stopped for a “safety inspection” and he asks, “Am I being detained?” Rather than answering yes or no, the LEO says he’s just doing his job. Guy is actually rational and when the LEO later says he is being detained, the driver asks further questions to find out his exact situation.* From the perspective of a driver who is not an LEO or lawyer, it is hard to know exactly where you stand with police (we’ve done this millions of times with “don’t talk to cops” and “can police detain you?” and “when does a detention turn into something more aka There’s Something About Terry”).
Ok so driver starts in with “unconstitutional” and “I’m not obligated…” bullshit and immediately the partner* flings open the door, hitting the original LEO and yelling at the driver. While yelling at the driver he snatches the license & insurance. Driver eventually goes 5th Amendment because to be honest, there is no telling what Hothead Cop is going to do and the driver may feel he’s going to be dragged out of the car and arrested. Hothead Cop’s reaction to the guy saying “I have the right to remain silent.” was “Really?! Are you sure?”* Stop ends when Hothead Cop slams the car door and hands driver his paperwork back.
*These 3 situations, I would love to know what the LEO perspective is on the situation.
I agree and would also like a professional opinion on that one. Also the truck driver stopped at an immigration checkpoint. He was foolish in not complying once the officer made it clear he had no choice and was going to break the glass if he didn’t comply, but I was under the impression that mandatory immigration checks were illegal–the cops can stop you and ask questions, but they can’t make you answer them or detain you if you aren’t at the border. (Though maybe they were close enough to the border that it’s considered a border stop. I think there’ some odd leeway there.)
My impression (IANAL) is why is it not legal for INS to ask someone crossing the border if they are a citizen or not. HOWEVER, notice the lack of passport? I suspect the immigration checkpoint was far from the border. The one I’m familiar with is between San Diego and Los Angeles 67 miles from the border. If he is driving a truck and never left the country and is nowhere near Mexico, I can’t argue that “Go fuck yourself.” isn’t a valid answer to “Are you a US citizen?”
“Some people believe with great fervor preposterous things that just happen to coincide with their self-interest.” *Coleman v. Commissioner of Internal Revenue *(7th Cir. 1986), 791 F.2d 68, 69.
Then let them. It has zero net effect on their being subject to the law and at some point it may be useful in showing that they cannot be trusted with issues such as bail, probation, suspended sentences and the like.
You can’t fix stupid. But you can stop catering to it.
Someone posted this on another forum, and it was too funny not to share. The Sovereign Citizen view on why names are written in CAPITAL LETTERS in legal documents: