In our house, we put the lid down before flushing.
I really don’t have sympathy for the “women fall in the toilet” argument. You should notice the seat is up when you go to lift the lid (or at least check if the lid is closed and needs to be lifted). And if you expect to always have the lid up and seat down, you’re just as lazy as your man.
Jesus. I wasn’t trying to be scientifically literal. I meant that men need to sit down to take care of one set of issues and stand for another set. Since that means they DO need it some of the time, and women need it ALL of the time, combined it still means that’s a greater amount of time than the smaller portion that men need it some of the time. Clearer, my happy pedants?
I’m really surprised by the amount of women that apparently regularly fall into toilets with the seat up. As a man I still need to sit down ~1/3 of the time, and I’ve never in my life fallen into a toilet, or even sat down when the seat was up. Do women close their eyes when they enter bathrooms?
The reason men probably don’t fall into toilets is because they are trained to check for the need to have them either up or down. Women, on the other have, never have any need to develop that trait until they share space with a male.
Down because:
Urine mist + toothbrushes = bad.
Small children + toilets = bad. Especially if you have those Toilet Duck gel things which are apparently very attractive - official word from Poison Control is that they won’t kill, just irritate gastro lining.
Cats + toilets = bad.
Things falling + toilets = bad.
If people want the seat down all the time, why not build the seat in?
People have no trouble sitting on the toilet bowl if they have to. It seems people can learn to lower themselves such that, seat or no seat, they won’t fall in.
If you flush with the lid down, do you open to check everything’s gone?
Not true. Men need the toilet seat down 100% of the time that they actually use the toilet, because they do their peeing in the sink, as a form of clandestine revenge on their spouses for whatever shit they’ve had to take during the day. Jeez, I thought this was a well known fact by now.
(Then they put the seat up anyway and leave it like that, just out of spite.)
TL;DR: You should really prefer to poop in the kitchen sink and brush your teeth in the toilet with toilet water. See Slug’s illustration for further clarification.
I bought the self-lowering lids for all our toilets a few years ago, because I got tired of hearing about it.
To me it’s just another data-point in the constant refrain: “We females can handle anything you men can!” (except changing the oil, replacing the filters, fixing the brakes, backing the RV, launching the boat, starting the weed-eater, fixing the deck, patching the roof, wiring the new hot-tub, fixing the stair railing, replacing the disposal, putting in a sink, filling the freezer with fresh game meat, re-hanging the broken garage door, replacing the opener, and of course… raising toilet lids) that I’ve been hearing my whole damned life. :rolleyes:
The seat and lid (if tapped) will slowly lower themselves to the closed position. No more effort required to lower them. I really should put a clip of this on you-tube.
We’ve been together 13 years now, and we’ve always maintained that one of the factors in a harmonious household is separate bathrooms. That way you can do what the hell you like with the lid.
Seriously, whenever we house-hunt we immediately discount any houses with a single bathroom, or ones that don’t have the potential to add one on. That’s what we did with the last place we bought; we removed some fitted wardrobes from the master bedroom and built a small shower room/WC in their place. Our estate agent reckons it added more value to the property than it cost us to build.
Personally, when I have to take a piss in the middle of the night, I don’t want to have to worry about aiming.
Concentrating sufficiently to make sure that my stream is all going into the bowl in a dark bathroom involves too much mental activity, and wakes me up. Turning on a light so I can see what I’m aiming at wakes me up even more.
It’s much easier to sit on the toilet, push my penis down between my legs, and be 100% sure that it’s all going into the bowl. I can do that without getting any more conscious than I had to be to get to the bathroom in the first place, which makes it a lot easier to get back to sleep afterwards.
And what’s this bit about being a guy in a hurry in the middle of the night? I’ve never been in such a hurry that I couldn’t hold it for another minute or two if I had to. I don’t get it.
Don’t care about seat up or seat down at all and never did.
Until I read Cecil’s article. I still don’t care about the seat position, but now both of us agree the lid should always be down! I can’t believe the seat up vs seat down argument is still going on, in a world where that article exists!
And if the lids always down, it’s an easy habit to lift it up and pee while bleary-eyed and half asleep, as much as it is for him to lift lid + seat in one motion, and then pee while half asleep.