Yeah, emacknight, but you aren’t a multi-billionaire living in the top 1% of all earners with training from the masses (and a degree from a CrackerJack box)! Your economic courses from an accredited university were probably taught by so called ‘economics experts’ who believe that economics is a science, instead of the voodoo that the populist public knows it is!
-XT
Wow. He’s still jabbering away.
Well, one could start with all the jobs that are now done in a foreign land…
Yup, retards, all of them. I’m filling out my settlement proposal, how much should I ask for in damages?
Dude, you’re a troll on an internet message board, and not even a very good one, maybe get some perspective. Speaking of which, you look hungry:
Like I said, if i can get my container costs down 3 cents that saves me $360 per week. That let me hire another guy.
So which is it? Cut container costs or cut staff? Say the word and I’ll fire him tonight.
Just make sure you ask for the money to be given in yuan, since the USD is on the verge of collapse and China is about to overtake us (or already has…I’m not sure what the horned ones position on that one is, but whatever he thinks is surly true).
Better to be safe than sorry.
-XT
You’re dodging again.
There hasn’t been a “next big thing” for the last 10 years. The supposed next big things were biotech research and alternative energy. With only 260,000 biotech jobs in California that doesn’t even light a candle to the jobs created by the tech boom that came before it. And offshoring has slowed or stopped the growth of jobs in that field.
The problem here, born out by statistics, is that the next big thing isn’t coming. Any industry that is a CANDIDATE for the “next big thing” will get decimated immediately by offshoring.
So, I will ask you again… what jobs have offshoring created? We’ve been waiting 10 years for the “next big thing”… how much longer do people have to wait?
Everyone knows this. Well, everyone except ignorant fools like you. Which is why you’re going to find yourself dealing with more people like me. A LOT more. Because offshoring is BULLSHIT, full of empty promises, and people are seeing that.
Translation: you’re the self-described emperor who has no clothes, and you’ve been exposed.
http://paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2006/11/biotech_offshor.html
If you’re a scientist trying to get into biotech your pickings are quite slim. But what do these guys know? You seem to know better than everyone in the real world. We’re all tamagotchi trolls to you. Or maybe it’s the other way around?
Self-accredited, no doubt. Or maybe you cheated. Hmmm. Well then you have no case, eh? 
No doubt you learned rote memorization - but apparently they never taught you how to think.
Oh and… name me one college that says you can’t find good workers in an era of low unemployment. Or that high unemployment is good for employers and not BAD for business.
Yeah… you cheated, alright.
I’ve already shifted my entire 401(k) into gold as per his/her recommendation. I can only assume he/she’s done the same thing.
Oh, okay then, you win.
Out of curiosity, what was the that “big thing”?
I’m heading in to work soon, what do I tell my new guy? Do I fire him and pay for more containers? Or keep him and cost someone else a job? Help me be a better anti-offshorer.
And I’ve left you a fresh bowl of water and asnack for later.
So, we’ve had double digit unemployment since 2001? Oh, that’s right…those unemployment stats weren’t the real numbers, since they didn’t count all the phantom unemployed who had given up. That would mean that, today, we must have something like 15-20% unemployment, right? Since if it was over 10% (while showing up as 4-5%), it just be even more now.
Of course, you have to willfully ignore the fact that the service sector has picked up those jobs, or how industries like IT, telcom and other communications industries have rocketed up in the last 10 years. But then, you have willful ignorance down to a science…well, not a ‘science’ science, since we all know that it’s not really a science. Sort of like economics isn’t a ‘science’. More an art form really.
Yeah…everyone knows this except folks like emacknight, most of the people who have any sort of expertise in economics and trade. Well, and most of the people on this message board (known for it’s stupid poster population who are all in lock step with each other). Ah…well, and most people who are even marginally educated on this subject. But other than that, everyone knows it’s bullshit, no doubt.
-XT
Which is it? Either everyone knows it, which would include me, or everyone doesn’t know it because I don’t (and at least 3 others).
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Actually, I deal with trolls exclusively. Kind of a hobby I turned into a job. Turns out there are a damn lot of trolls out there, and they are all very hungry. So my production has gone from 600 a day to 1400 a day.
Maybe trolls are the next big thing, or the last big thing, which ever, either way, trolls are creating jobs here in the heart land.
From your article (edited for clarity):
*“Offshoring is what destroyed our business, literally,” said Michael Venuti, former chief executive officer of Discovery Partners.
A year ago, Discovery failed to win a competitive bid that would have renewed its contract with drug giant Pfizer, which provided half the company’s annual revenue.
Two other U.S. biotechs that provided drug research services to Pfizer also lost out on bids to renew multimillion-dollar contracts with the company.
What’s changing: U.S. pharmaceutical and biotech companies are beginning to do more of their research work through companies in China, India and Eastern Europe, where labor is cheaper.
Gone are the days when investment money flowed into U.S. biotech startups with big ideas but few products. Today’s biotech scene is more frugal and leaner, with some scientists losing high-paying research jobs as the industry adjusts to a new and, some would say, more balanced global market.
Venuti said Pfizer had the three U.S. biotechs bid against offshore providers in India, China and Eastern Europe.
“Price was the driver,” Venuti said. “To my chagrin, Discovery bid at zero margin the second time around just to try to keep the contract. One cent less and we’d have been doing charity work for Pfizer.”*
So what you’re saying is that Pfizer should have chosen a higher priced bid, and then what? Eaten the profits? Laid off staff? Raised drug prices?
California’s biotech industry clearly had too many “high paid scientists.”
If you had bothered to read that chapter on supply and demand, you would be aware of how the free market establishes prices (wages). These so called* scientists* used to think they were high value, and perhaps there was a time when they were. Now they’re not. Are you suggesting the government step in and tell everyone to pay scientists more?
Damn, at this rate you are going to be the fattest troll on the web.
That’s right, just like tamagotchis these scientists are no longer in demand, hence their wages will fall as a result. See how supply and demand works?
Name me one object made from hay that argues better than you.
Fuck it, I’m firing him, and cutting my costs, then pocketing the difference. I wants me some of this plutocracy.
Hope sleep well tonight knowing you just cost another American a job (and 100 Chinese children that make my plastic containers).
So let’s look at the tall board:
Jobs Created By Le Jacquelope: 0
Jobs Lost Because of Le Jacquelope: 1
At this rate everyone in America will be unemployed by Monday thanks to you.
I’m thinking about replacing one of my guys with a machine that doesn’t drink as much coffee, what do you think about that? Ready to cost another American his job?
Make sure you take that money and stick it in the bank, since that’s what all those evil, offshoring companies do with the money they save from firing U.S. workers.
Oh, I was going to use it to reinvest in my business, but you’re idea is way better. I might just fire someone else this weekend too.
Buy gold. And chia-pets.
-XT
I was talking about in 1995 you idiot.
And people are quite SERIOUSLY looking at investing in the Yuan. As soon as China drops the peg the renmibi is going to skyrocket. Businesses are investing like crazy in China.
Seriously, you guys make fun of investing in the Yuan? You’re making TOTAL idiots of yourselves.
Tech was the big thing in the 1990s. It got crippled by the crash and then a stake was put through its heart by offshoring.
Biotech was the next big thing. It never even became big because of offshoring. Now that field is heavily impacted. Sure your make-believe blow-up doll -er, I mean wife, sorry - she is employed in the industry, but good luck getting a job there if you’re starting out with a degree now.
The other next big thing was alternative energy. Oops. China’s got that one locked down. Guess where our photovoltaic cells are coming from?
The next big thing is probably going to be seminars by Emacknight on how to pray for high unemployment to get the best employees. Or why people shouldn’t invest in the Yuan.
By the way I know now why you guys are so full of venom.
You’ve been made fun of so much by society that you’ve been itching to take your frustrations out on someone who deigns to actually argue with your kind instead of ruthlessly ridicule you like most people do.
Case in point:
http://www.adpulp.com/archives/HOMEWORK.jpg
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/jco/lowres/jcon3498l.jpg
http://www.zinnov.com/newsletters/November2005/images/zinnov-nov-cartoon-new.jpg
This is what the world thinks of offshoring. And people like you who defend it.
Feel free to throw more of your temper tantrums!
Oh you think they don’t pocket the savings they get from offshoring?
Do you not realize that corporate cash reserves are damned near higher than they’ve EVER been in the known history of corporate cash reserves?
Wow, the Straight Dope Message Board must be the only place left on Earth where people don’t realize that. Dude, send me your photo. You’re going to win me a Nobel Prize in paleontology. Not only that but you could win Federal money when President Obama declares your entire neighborhood a mental health disaster area.
I’ve already covered that. I’m not going over it again.
Ahahahahahaha. This might be one of the funniest things I’ve read on these boards, and that includes the infamous pit post on telemarketers.
As a famous stand-up once said: Some guys are jerks, some are ass-holes…and some, like you, are simply full of shit. You do realize the yuan peg was lifted in 2005, and only a soft peg was put in place during the financial crisis? (A very reasonable thing to do, quite frankly - a stable monetary policy is always preferred during turbulent times).
But no, the funny part is you think the yuan is going to ‘skyrocket’. Ahahahahaha. Skyrocket, as in, go up, get stronger? As in, make it easier for China to buy US stuff, and make it harder for the US to buy Chinese stuff or use Chinese labor? Yes, I can see why you’d want to not invest in US companies and invest in China…no, wait, that doesn’t sound right.
Many politicians accuse China of keeping its currency artificially low (personally I take some issue with that claim on some points, but that’s neither here nor there), and said politicians want the yuan to strengthen.
Look, it’s clear you need to just go play under a rock somewhere and shut the fuck up. You don’t even have ultra-basic knowledge of how currencies work (hint: when the yen goes from Y83 to the dollar to Y85 to the dollar, the yen is not getting ‘stronger’). We can add that to the already-long and still-growing list of things you have no fucking clue about. Not that it’s stopped you from spewing poo from your mouth the whole time.