I didn’t say that Offshoring = YEC. I was using YEC as an example to explain to you what an argumentum ad populum is. I’m sorry that I tried to speak to you as an adult. I promise that it won’t happen again.
Why solve the “problem” with tariffs? Why don’t you advocate getting rid of the minimum wage so that factory workers can work for $1.00/hr like the Chinese and Indians? Then we can bring all these jobs back home. Problem solved!
I’m guessing the concept of apples vs oranges isn’t familiar to you.
Pro-Offshoring vs Anti-Offshoring is NOT the same as Evolution vs Young Earth Creationism. Evolution is proven by scientific fact. Pro-offshoring is anything but that. It is an opinion-based point of view where most of the “facts” exist only in your mind. Such as your boneheaded claim that if you send customer service jobs overseas it causes another company to have lower operating costs which somehow offsets the lost customer service jobs. One has to wonder why you had no answer to that even as you replied to other parts of my post. Perhaps it’s because of the fact that the company you mentioned, whose operating costs declined because of tech support offshoring, could just as easily pocket the difference and put it in the bank instead of hiring people. Oh wait, they’re doing that a hell of a lot now… whoops! Your argument blew up in your face! No wonder you didn’t want to respond to that!
(Insert Lord Rash-tard’s victory dance spin control here.)
The problem is that you failed to speak like an adult.
The problem is that anyone bothers speaking to you at all.
And I’m guessing the concept of an analogy isn’t familiar to you.
Fine then, explain to me why I’m wrong.
You mean like how you cut out a large chunk of my post when you quoted it?
Sure, they could “just as easily” throw the money into the bank, but that wouldn’t be a smart thing to do. Most companies with intelligent management would choose to reinvest the money in the company to continue growing. A company with unwise management would have that as the least of their problems.
Credit where it’s due, that’s a new one. Most people who make fun of my name call me Lord Asstard or something.
no u
You really don’t understand, do you? Only Americans have the right to do research and invent new technologies. Why do you think the Chinese should be allowed to do research concerning our technologies?
All your sun belong to us!
-XT
What a relief! Here I was worried that you were just going to be all talk, without any real solutions on how to address the market forces that lead to offshoring. I hadn’t realized you were going to be linking to online petitions. Well done, sir. My hat is off to you.
“They pull a knife, you pull out an online petition.”
Don’t laugh – history is littered with the corpses of governments and corporations brought down by online petitions.
It’s enough to make the Baby Jesus start an on-line petition…
-XT
Funny you should bring up the Baby Jesus. God wanted to have a son, but Heaven was too expensive, so he outsourced the whole thing to some poor, backwater region of the Middle East. The only reason heaven is so rich, is that the folks their exploit the poor people on earth!
Baby Jesus is a blockhead.
You heard it here first.
Le Jacquelope, I’ve removed the link you posted to an online petition. As stated in the rules sticky in ATMB, such links are not allowed:
No warning issued.
What it said was that the government of China was investing in “Green energy” technology. There was no mention in it of any jobs being transferred to China from another country, or of American firms purchasing “Green energy” stuff in China, or anything that can be construed as offshoring.
I believe that he (and Baby Jesus) think that if China invests in green energy that this automatically means they will have a huge jump on the US, and that this will render our own paltry investment moot (or mute even), forcing us to have to buy Chinese green energy products or become a third world country…
Or something. If you put yourself in to LeJac’s weird mindset, it sort of makes ‘logical’ sense. In the end all the jobs will be in China and the US, en masse, will be out of work, homeless and destitute. Even Bill (The Snake) Gates will be rooting around garbage cans and fighting for scraps while trying to escape from New York…
-XT
No, he’s too stoopid to even think like that. He thinks there is a fixed pie, and whatever slice China takes out of the pie, that’s one slice less we’ll be able to get.
Yeah, he’s definitely a zero-sum sort of guy. And definitely agree that he’s pretty freaking stupid. Still, I think that part of his logic (such as it is and to use the word extraordinarily loosely), at least WRT his rant about the Chinese and green energy, is that if he believes that if the Chinese get into green energy directly, this will automatically put them so far beyond the US that we’ll be forced to buy green energy products from them in the future. Q.E.D. green energy jobs will be transferred to China and away from the US.
YMMV, and I won’t argue with you over how stupid he is, or in which ways. 
ETA: Of course, this is all just another way of saying that, yeah, he believes that there is only so much pie to go around, and if China does green energy, that means the US can’t…
-XT
Aww, you just ruined his whole thread.
So the United States should never import anything?
Should the U.S. invest in giant greenhouses to grow its own coffee? Since it doesn’t, does that constitute “Offshoring” the coffee-growing industry to places with low wages like Brazil, Indonesia, and Colombia?