Motherfucking Windows you bastard piece of fuckety fuck!!!

[mhendo]

@The_Niply_Elder

Yes, that’s nice, but you have to realize that there are thousands of Windows apps that do not have any sort of auto recover feature built in. Mainly because it’s really difficult for developers to write code to handle how to save current data at any random point in time that any outside entity (Windows itself) might feel like destroying at any random line of code being executed.

Look douchebag, i recognize that. But one of the OP’s own problems was in Word, so i just ran a little experiment. I never claimed that it was the be-all-and-end-all on the matter.

I did it simply because people in this thread were claiming that, with updates set to run automatically, the computer would (1) restart without warning and (2) lose work done in MS Word. Well, when i set updates to run automatically on my computer, two things happened to contradict that statement: (1) the computer was not shut down without warning, and (2) in Word at least, no information was lost.

I never claimed that this experiment proved that Windows is perfect. I did it simply to satisfy myself about the issue of immediate shutdown and losing work in Word, and thought people might be interested in the result.

@The_Niply_Elder

Also, as mentioned upthread and confirmed by multiple users, even if you are a diligent and careful Windows user, Microsoft will change your update settings through updates themselves. If this hasn’t happened to you, it only means that you aren’t observant enough to notice these changes.

Huh?

The only times my update settings have changed is when i changed them myself, for this experiment. I would have noticed if they had changed themselves, because the way the computer updated would have changed. I’ve had this Windows 7 box for 2 years, and every time it has needed to update, it has given me a little pop-up bubble from the system tray telling me that it needs updates. I’ve observed these perfectly well, and on no occasion has it changed the update settings on my computer.

I’m not arguing that it never happens to anyone, but it hasn’t happened to me despite your asinine suggestion that i’m just too unobservant to have noticed.

@The_Niply_Elder

In any case, it sounds like you are only familiar with Windows and nothing else,and a pretty light Windows user at that. Moral of the whole story is that in a well-designed and well-engineered operating system software updates do not require a restart. Windows is none of this so here we are.

Yeah, i’m only familiar with Windows, and only a “light Windows” user.

If by “light Windows” you mean running, in addition to the usual email/browser/word processing programs, a variety of software from Adobe CS4, GIS software, video encoders, an Apache/PHP/MySQL setup for web development and CMS testing, and a whole bunch of other software that most of my friends don’t have on their computers.

I’ve never claimed to be a computer science PhD or a programmer or an uber-power user who runs compilers for hours on end, or who spends most of his life in the command line, but i use the command line periodically and i ask more of my computer than most of my friends do of theirs. I’m not someone who turns on his computer to just do email, listen to music, and write a few letters.

And as for only being familiar with Windows, i guess that’s true if you don’t count the 27" iMac on my desk at work, the Macbook Air my wife uses and that i sometimes help her with, and the Linux installations that i dual-boot on my home desktop and on my netbook.

Apart from those things, you’re right on the mark.

@The_Niply_Elder

Fundamentally all of this is caused by the Windows Side By Side feature as I mentioned upthread. It defies explanation the reason for the design decisions taken when this feature was implemented, and if you don’t understand much about computers and programming, it’s difficult to explain accurately what it is. “Cancer” and “built-in Trojan” are fairly accurate though.

I’m well aware of what WinSXS is. It’s one of the first things i discovered after i made the jump to Windows 7 (i skipped Vista).

I also happen to agree that it’s a shitty system. But it’s a shitty system within what is otherwise a very stable and usable and functional and powerful operating system.

[Quartz]

Since the OP mentioned that there were two PCs, I’m going to guess that they weren’t his. So the update policy was probably set by the school or university, and could not be changed.

However, the reboot can be stopped if you’re quick:

Click Start, Programs, Accessories, Command Prompt, and type shutdown -a and press Enter.

I believe that for particularly important updates, Microsoft can override local settings. The only way around this is to disable the Windows Update service entirely.

[Bazinga]

@Pann

:mad::mad::mad:

Project due tomorrow in an 8 am class. Working diligently trying to get everything done. Two computers, one running a compiler and one with a Word document. All of a sudden they both start shutting down WITH NO GODDAMN WARNING WHATSOEVER.

Then they both boot back up and I get the nice little note that windows had to restart the computer after installing updates.

Everything is gone!!! THere is not enough time to restart and get finished.

:mad::mad::mad:

What the fuck, microsoft. How in the hell is this the default behaviour? What idiot in Redmond thought this was a good idea? Do you people not live in the real world where people have deadlines they have to meet?

:mad::mad::mad:

Yeah, I know I should save often. Yeah I know you can turn off the automatic installation of updates. Truth is, I didn’t think about it until now. You can bet your ass that the stupid fucking automatic updates is turned off now!

If only I could get my work back.:(

AMEN TO YOU.

Full Quote because i’m living the same experience…
Whyyyyyy… :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack:
Made a registration here just to let you here my voice…

In here i’m running some serverss.
After i noticed that winsrv reboots on unanounced times when i set NOT TO!!! FUC**NG REBOOT… Now all of them are Ubuntu powered, why does ms need reboots even on FREAKIN serversss.. Only ADDS Ruless. For the rest its crap. They are not made for reboot on unanounced moments when im working…

If i could do more damage to the comany than this message i would do it right now!

[Bryan_Ekers]

@Nava

do Macs have a more reasonable way of dealing with updates?

Yeah, you buy a new one every two years.

[74westy]

I googled “ADDS ruless” and I got nothing. I blame Microsoft.

[Doug_K]

Nasty comany rebootses my precious serversss.

[bucketybuck]

@Bazinga

AMEN TO YOU.

Full Quote because i’m living the same experience…
Whyyyyyy… :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack:
Made a registration here just to let you here my voice…

Panns banned man, Panns banned.

[Balthisar]

@Bryan_Ekers

Yeah, you buy a new one every two years.

Well, duh. We Apple devotees are all about style. Why the hell wouldn’t we buy new ones every two years? Although TBH I always give the old one to my wife. And I don’t count the Minis since they’re only HTPCs.

(My oldest Mac is still older than this thread, though.)

[hotflungwok]

I have never hated any software like I’ve hated Microsoft crap. Using Vista is like using a normal OS only it punches you in the face randomly several times a day. Excel is the only program I’ve ever used that made me yell ‘Why you gotta make me hit you!’

I’m going to go found out who worked on some of these systems, kidnap them, tie them to chairs, and let people punch them for a dollar. I will be a millionaire in a week.

[Canadjun]

@hotflungwok

I’m going to go found out who worked on some of these systems, kidnap them, tie them to chairs, and let people punch them for a dollar. I will be a millionaire in a week.

Cattle prods to the tender bits. MUCH more fun!

[AaronX]

Autoupdates well deserve their bad reputation. But nobody’s mentioned autorun? “Gee, let’s run any program a removable drive tells me to! This is in no way a massive security breach!”

[Morgyn]

@AaronX

Autoupdates well deserve their bad reputation. But nobody’s mentioned autorun? “Gee, let’s run any program a removable drive tells me to! This is in no way a massive security breach!”

I turned those off, for that very reason. Windows7 has to ASK me before it can install or update or run anything from a flash or CD drive.

[AaronX]

And to complete the trifecta, we have “hide extensions for known file types”. Hey! I just got a file named babe.jpg.exe!

They’ve either got a very positive outlook on humanity, or dangerously stupid.

[Kimballkid]

@Bazinga

AMEN TO YOU.

Full Quote because i’m living the same experience…
Whyyyyyy… :smack::smack::smack::smack::smack:
Made a registration here just to let you here my voice…

In here i’m running some serverss.
After i noticed that winsrv reboots on unanounced times when i set NOT TO!!! FUC**NG REBOOT… Now all of them are Ubuntu powered, why does ms need reboots even on FREAKIN serversss.. Only ADDS Ruless. For the rest its crap. They are not made for reboot on unanounced moments when im working…

If i could do more damage to the comany than this message i would do it right now!

Hey!! If anyone lost any extraneous S’s, I think I found them.

[CoastalMaineiac]

How to disable the automatic reboot in Windows 8

In the professional versions of Windows, you can change the settings via the group policy editor, but with the home editions, you’ll have to modify the registry, but it isn’t that hard.

This way, you can continue to have the updates automatically install, without having the damn thing force a reboot right when you’re in the middle of something.

[Cat_Whisperer]

I checked the start date on this thread, but really, this is such a timeless rant.

I don’t hate Excel - it’s Word that makes me want to throw the computer out the window. QUIT FORMATTING EVERYTHING AUTOMATICALLY! If I want an indent, I’ll make a fucking indent!

[Cheshire_Human]

@Balthisar

(My oldest Mac is still older than this thread, though.)

My three oldest Macs are older than this website!

[Cheshire_Human]

@CoastalMaineiac

This way, you can continue to have the updates automatically install, without having the damn thing force a reboot right when you’re in the middle of something.

I just have it notify me when updates are available, then I wait two weeks before I install them. This goes back to Win2k days when I found out every two or three months a new update would crash the machine, sometimes so bad I had to reinstall. Then it would do the same, and I’d have to reinstall.

I finally figured out they were sending out defective updates. If I waited 2 weeks before installing them, they would have gotten enough complaints, figured out what was wrong with it, fix it, and when I installed 2 weeks later I’d get the fixed fix.

[Morgyn]

@Cheshire_Human

I finally figured out they were sending out defective updates. If I waited 2 weeks before installing them, they would have gotten enough complaints, figured out what was wrong with it, fix it, and when I installed 2 weeks later I’d get the fixed fix.

Oo, nice tip. I’ll admit I haven’t noticed crashing being a problem with Windows 7, but I have noticed programs not working properly for a bit.

[Skald_the_Rhymer]

@Cheshire_Human

I just have it notify me when updates are available, then I wait two weeks before I install them. This goes back to Win2k days when I found out every two or three months a new update would crash the machine, sometimes so bad I had to reinstall. Then it would do the same, and I’d have to reinstall.

I finally figured out they were sending out defective updates. If I waited 2 weeks before installing them, they would have gotten enough complaints, figured out what was wrong with it, fix it, and when I installed 2 weeks later I’d get the fixed fix.

Stop being smarter than me.