Motorcyclists - Fight my Ignorance, please

Sincere thanks to everyone who contributed here. I’ve read every post and am learning a lot. I literally know zip about riding motorcycles.

The main points seem to be:

  1. Get good gear and wear it consistently
  2. Get in touch with the MSF and make use of their courses*
  3. Risk can be mitigated (using one’s training and one’s brain)
  4. The machine he’s chosen seems to be a good choice for a newbie (whew)
  5. Don’t use the bike’s engine to get it into the truck :slight_smile:
  6. Use the school’s bikes for initial training (good point, we never thought of this)
  7. City streets (intersections) are more dangerous than freeways (non-intuitive, but I see what you mean)

I’ve followed Rand Rover’s suggestion and perused the Hurt report. I find it very comforting that the overwhelming majority of accidents involved riders with no training. This bodes well for pullinSon as he is approaching this as a long-term learning experience.

To answer some of the questions:
Broomstick He is a pilot, and has been very deliberate in his progress, and at managing risk. He’s now Commercial, Multi, Instrument, Instructor (Airplane, Instrument, and Multi). He’s currently shopping around for an ATP course. He’s followed the regulations and has worked carefully to a high skill level in flying, and tells me he intends to do the same with the motorcycle. He tells me his current plans are to gradually progress by riding for fun/experience and not commute on the bike until his skill level is sufficient. I think the fact that he admits he’s a beginner is a good omen.

Gus-n-Spot
Based on his approach so far to aviation, I doubt he would ride without his helmet. If he did, there’s not much I can do though. At some point, our kid’s decisions are out of our hands.
Of course I taught him to both fly and drive defensively; He won’t expect other drivers to act rationally. He’s been driving now for 7 years with no accidents, and my insurance guy tells me that’s unusual for new drivers. I would appreciate it if you’d elaborate about the oily road problem. Is this something bikes are unusually susceptible to? Should new riders park for awhile as rain begins? I’m assuming you mean early in a rainstorm when oil is first lifted from the roadway but not yet washed away?

Again, thanks very much to everyone for their posts. We’ll continue to follow the thread in case there are more additions. I’m much less concerned as the data you’ve shown me seems to argue that riders have much more control over their risk level than I previously thought.

pullin

*he’s signed up for a course at the local college, and I see it’s on the MSF website.

Also, thanks to Johnny LA, spotthegerbil, Eginerd, echoreply, and Lanzy for the loading advice. We’ll need that the first day.

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Whenever I move my bike on a trailer of even when parking in the shed, I use a sort of front wheel clamp. It makes tying down a lot easier. You just roll the front wheel in and presto: it stands on it’s own. Then you can just tighten it down without any risk of it falling over.

This particular model will of course be too expensive to get to you, but maybe you can source it locally or create your own, I’m sure there are instructions to be found on the net.

All the other stuff has been said already : gear and advanced driving lessons. One of the most important things I think is looking far enough ahead : it will tell you what the road and the other occupants of that road will do. Misjudging a corner or someone pulling out a parking lot can be very painful.

Depending on the road, you are right about the starting minutes of a rain event.

Another that has bit a few in the butt is at a stop where there is a spot of fresh oil and the back tire ends up on it. Pressure from traffic or a slight over use or throttle may cause the wheel to spin. The bike usually goes sideways and down very quickly and if the guy behind was wanting a jump & expecting the bike to move quickly, he may hit the down rider before he can transition back to stopping.

Small things that hardly affect a car can really mess with a bike.

Sounds like your son & you both are approaching this with an open & inquisitive mind.

Have fun, because it is.

Motorcycling has been one of the most fulfilling pursuits of my adult life. I got my motorcycle endorsement at 18, picking up maybe a couple thousand miles of experience on my dad’s old Honda 450. No professional instruction, just a cautious attitude ingrained in me by my dad. I bought my first bike (a big BMW touring bike) just out of grad school when I was 29; in the 13 years since, I’ve racked up 160,000 miles of road riding experience. I’ve ridden at high speed on a race track, I’ve covered 1000 miles in 24 hours, I’ve been to the tops of mountains, ridden through snowstorms, cruised the Vegas strip on a sunny 115-degree day, seen some amazing sights and met some extremely interesting people. I dropped my first bike (at zero speed) a couple of times, but I’ve never crashed, despite regularly riding at a sporting pace one some of the twistiest roads in the US. Although some of the risk is beyond the rider’s control, a great deal of it can be mitigated by smart choices before and during the ride. Here’s my advice.

Your son has made some smart decisions from the get-go, starting with a small, modestly-powered bike and getting professional instruction. After he gets his license and begins road riding on his own, he may enjoy and benefit by attending a track-based school (example: Reg Pridmore’s CLASS) to improve his riding skills and learn what a motorcycle can and cannot do. Many accidents happen because a motorcyclist doesn’t apply as much brake as he could have, or does not lean the bike as far as he could have; these are the kinds of things that experience at a track school can help prevent. Whether he does or does not receive additional pro instruction beyond the MSF course, it’s important to continue learning/practicing on one’s own. Before I bought my first bike I was an avid trials bicyclist and a Ph.D. mechanical engineer, so I already had a deep visceral and analytical understanding of two-wheeled vehicle dynamics. I took the MSF Advanced Rider Course a few months after I bought my first bike and found that I already knew most of what they were teaching, but I could see that a lot of other people in the class benefitted from it. In 2004 I took a road-based course from a friend who later became a professional track racing instructor for Keith Code. This was more advanced stuff intended for navigating bigger touring bikes through turns on public roads, talking about what to do with your body, braking/accelerating, choosing a line, and so on. It improved my riding ability immensely, and has instilled goals for me to strive for ever since; when I end up on twisty roads, the things I learned then all give me something to focus on, to try to get right. If your son isn’t fortunate enough to bump into an opportunity like that, then I would definitely recommend a track school like the aforementioned CLASS.

Knowing how to maneuver a motorcycle on a track is only half of the picture, though; a rider looking to optimize his safety must also know how to deal proactively with whatever he may encounter on public roads. Rather than flood you with specific tips, I’ll recommend a series of books that contains more info than can be conveyed in a single post here: any one of these books by David L. Hough contains a wealth of information, and the best starting point is probably Street Strategies: a Survival Guide for Motorcyclists. There’s a lot of helpful info there for dealing with a variety of potential road hazards.

Although the motorcyclist isn’t officially at fault in many accidents, there is rarely an accident in which a motorcyclist couldn’t have done something differently that might have avoided or mitigated it. Example, a car changes lanes without looking over his shoulder and runs into you. You weren’t officially at fault, but the accident could have been avoided entirely if you hadn’t lingered in his blind spot.

In the absence of any of those books, I’ll offer a few general tips:

Be predictive. Watch other drivers (in your mirrors too!), and do your damndest to predict what they’re going to do next. Where’s that driver looking? Is this one going to pull out, or change lanes in front of me? Does he see that approaching hazard, and is he going to react well, or is he oblivious and likely to do something stupid at the last second? If you find yourself being surprised a lot, you are doing something wrong, and you should do an honest assessment of what happened to figure out how to avoid being surprised in the future.

Be predictable. If other drivers aren’t expecting you to do X, or if they’re expecting you to do X and instead you do Y, they’re more likely to react in ways that aren’t beneficial to your situation. Passing a car with a very high speed differential can surprise them, and rocketship-acceleration when merging from an on-ramp can, too: if a car glances and sees you doing 25 MPH, and two seconds later (when they aren’t looking) you’re doing 70, that can cause a problem.

DON’T TAILGATE. I see so many riders (and drivers) following other vehicles far more closely than they should. It’s particularly dangerous for motorcycle riders, who can be taken down by road debris that wouldn’t even make car drivers blink. Tailgating makes it more difficult for you to see ahead (to predict), and more difficult for you to be seen (to be predictable).

Don’t linger in blind spots. If you find yourself riding next to a car’s rear wheel, avoid spending a lot of time there; accelerate through that spot, or slow down, whatever works best. Many drivers don’t look over their shoulder (or signal!) when they change lanes, and this location is where they can’t see you, AND where they’ll hit you if they decide to change lanes.

As surely as untrained riders are grossly overrepresented in the crash stats, so are the drinkers. On tours, I’ve been known to have a single beer with dinner, but this was only ever followed by (at most) a mile of straight, flat, slow riding back to the hotel afterwards. Any rider who spends time at a bar during a ride is asking for trouble.

Conspicuity (being seen) is a challenge for motorcyclists. Optional solutions:

Hi-viz gear
There’s a lot of options out there. You can get full riding suits in day-glo yellow, or light-weight yellow vests to put on over whatever other gear you’re wearing. I currently have two high-viz jackets from Olympia: an AST2 for all-weather touring, and anAirglide 3 mesh jacket for hot weather local riding.
I have also affixed large patches of hi-viz yellow material to the rear of my motorcycle’s sidecases.

Extra lighting
My first bike had extra fog lights mounted below the main headlight. They were an unusual bluish-white shade of light (although not HID), and they seemed to catch the eye of other drivers without blinding them (as a high-beam does). I have outfitted my current bike with a pair of yellow Motolights, low on the fork; the unusual color and unusual triangular light pattern gets attention. If your son has a penchant for tinkering with electrical/mechanical systems, he might enjoy making a mod like that to his bike.

headlight modulator
This is a device that continuously oscillates the high beam from full brightness to about 25% brightness, four times per second. These things are legal in all fifty states, and they certainly get the attention of other drivers on the road, but among the experienced riders I know, they are controversial. Many drivers seem confused by them. When I had one many years ago, I actually had several drivers ahead of me pull off the road, apparently thinking I was some kind of authority vehicle. My concern is that the constant flashing may also irritate other drivers, especially if you are stuck behind them in traffic or at a stop light. I don’t currently use one, and I don’t particularly recommend it.

Helmet:
Michigan recently repealed its all-rider-all-the-time helmet law, but I will continue to ride with a full-face helmet. Over the years it has protected me from a lot of potential injuries by insects, road debris, and even a couple of birds. If your son does select a full face helmet, I recommend riding with the visor mostly or completely down; a few of my friends have had stinging insects fired into the gap between their cheek and the helmet, getting stung several times before they could come to a stop and get their helmet off. I push this myself sometimes, trundling through town at 15-20 MPH with the visor up, and yes, I’ve gotten non-stinging insects caught inside my helmet like this. I suppose one day I’ll end up stung like they did, and maybe then I’ll more rigorously apply my own advice.

Jacket:
I wear a jacket at all times, one of the Olympia ones mentioned above. These jackets have good impact armor on the elbows, shoulders and spine, and abrasion-resistant materials at the same spots. A mesh jacket would be a good choice for summer riding in Texas. Jackets typically come with a zipper sewn across the bottom rear edge, so that they can be attached to whatever pants a rider wears; this prevents the jacket from creeping upward while riding or crashing.

Pants:
For pants, I wear a product called Draggin’ Jeans. Outwardly, these look like ordinary denim jeans, but on the inside, they have abrasion-resistant material sewn into the knees and seat. I bought mine in a long length and an oversized waist, which enabled me to add hard armor to the knees and hips. The result is a garment that’s relatively cool in hot weather (as compared to more traditional riding overpants), but still offers decent protection in a crash. Although I have seen crash-tested Draggin’ Jeans that look like they held up quite well, I have to confess that I have never crashed myself, so I can’t confirm personally that this setup will perform to anyone’s satisfaction.

Footwear:
Watch enough YouTube videos, and you’ll see squids tumble off of their crotchrockets, sending their sneakers flying off of their feet. Protective gear can’t do any good for a rider unless it stays in place in a crash. At the very least, I’d recommend hiking boots with good ankle support; for myself, I have a pair of zip-up Sidi motorcycle boots with hard armor at the ankles and shins.

Gloves:
As with footwear, gloves need to be able to stay in place during a crash, so you’ll want some that include a wrist cinch. If you imagine yourself lying on concrete and slapping it as hard as you can with the back of your hand, you may come to appreciate the importance of hard knuckle armor; a number of gloves include this feature. For hot weather, gloves are available that include vents along with the above features.

Earplugs:
This is a relatively uncommon accessory among motorcyclists overall, but it’s almost universal among me and my friends; the difference may be that we tend to tour, which often involves high-speed cruising for hours every day. Hearing loss is (usually) a very slow injury, and unlike a broken bone, it doesn’t heal. I know many people with hearing loss and/or tinnitus, all of whom regret not using hearing protection when they were younger. I wear Howard Leight Max 33 earplugs; these have an NRR of 33, which is just about as high as you can get. I have no problem hearing horns or sirens or vehicles next to me, but it blocks out wind noise that would otherwise be, quite literally, deafening. I strongly recommend developing a habit of wearing earplugs when riding and during other noisy activities (e.g. mowing the lawn, using power tools, etc.); I keep a box of those earplugs in my garage, and another in my basement.

If your son will do a lot of hot-weather and/or long-distance riding, I recommend a Camelbak. Hydration is important under these conditions, and with a Camelbak, it’s pretty easy to grab the drinking hose and take a sip at a stoplight or on a straight road when traffic isn’t around.

That’s all I’ve got for now. Best of luck to your son; if he takes riding safety and continuous self-improvement seriously, maybe riding will be as fulfilling for him as it has been for me.

If you buy a used bike, make to sure to get a shop to inspect it, esp the state of the front forks. Steering wobble at freeway speeds is no fun.

Couple of notes on Machine Elf’s excellent post…

Footwear: I’d avoid anything with laces. I once had a loose lace get tangled up in the footpeg bracket. I got to a stoplight and found my foot tied to the peg. Only thing that saved me from a tip over was the fact that my laces were old and worn and a panic kick snapped them at the last second. I’ve also heard of laces getting caught in the sprocket. It probably is a rare occurrence, but it’s something that will never happen to me again as I only wear zippered street boots or toggle clamped off road boots.

Extra lighting: I have a rear facing light bar from Admore. I really worry about stop and go traffic and sitting at intersections. I got rear ended twice last year (in my car fortunately) and am now extra cautious. When I come to a stop, I stay in gear and watch my mirrors until one or two cars have come to a stop behind me. That, besides the oil stripe, is a great reason to stay in the left or right side of the lane. If you see someone you don’t think is going to stop, you can hopefully shoot up alongside the car in front of you.

Earplugs: Absolutely. Not only do they save your hearing, they reduce fatigue, and oddly enough, make it easier to hear the things you want to hear.

Finally, one of the best motorcycling videos I’ve seen is this SMIDSY clip. It’s a britishism for ‘Sorry mate, I didn’t see you’. It’s a must watch, as far as I’m concerned. Especially important is the instruction to watch for apparent movement against the background, meaning that if a stopped car does not appear to be moving against it’s background, then to the driver, YOU don’t appear to be moving against the background and can easily get lost in the visual clutter. I use that weaving technique all the time now.

I was going to come in here and add this. There are a few books of his and depending on how you like to read/absorb information depends on which ones to get. He has short little paragraph type blurbs and longer chapter type books. I prefer the chapter books myself but they all contain good information.

This is also something that use almost every time I ride, and that includes coming to work. Earplugs cut out the wind noise but still allow you to hear cars and other things going on around you.

I do have to say that DOT has a page on helmet myths, the one that I’ve always heard and I know is wrong is that people say they reduce visibility. DOT requires peripheral vision of 210° and most people’s vision is in the 200-220 range. If the helmet is affecting your vision then turn your head.

Another thing to remember is that mirrors tell you what you can’t do, not what you can do. Just because you don’t see someone in your mirrors you still need to turn your head and look.

I’d also say that Machine Elf and I ride in the same circles. Though I’ve been out of the loop for a few years now since I have young kids, but if you’ve been riding in any endurance rallies in the last 13 or so years we might have been at the same ones.

Mama always told me not to look into the eyes of the sun. “But Mama, that’s where the fun is…”

As I mentioned upthread, the accident stats are replete with unlicensed, untrained riders - and yes, with young men on high-powered sportbikes. However, the OP’s son sounds like he is doing all the right things to skew the odds in his favor:

-he’s 23, past the years when most young men exercise less-than-impeccable judgment on safety matters. Car insurance companies give a break on premiums at age 25, so they’ll back me up on this.

-at 23, he’s also likely got 7+ years of driving experience. He’s already familiar with many of the hazards of the road.

-he’s a licensed pilot; between that and the rest of the OP’s description, he sounds like an unusually thoughtful, intelligent person, all of which indicate that he’s willing and able to take a conscious, reasoned approach to risk management.

-he’s not starting out on a crotchrocket. A Kawasaki Ninja 250R has a modest 250-cc engine, whereas most sportbikes have 600cc, 1000cc, or even larger engines. the 0-60 time is about 6.5 seconds (my car, a Nissan Maxima, can do 0-60 in 6 seconds); contrast this with liter-class sportbikes, some of which can do 0-60 in under 3 seconds (or flip you onto your back before you realize what’s happening). It’s hard for the engine on a 250R to get a rider into trouble; he’ll have plenty of opportunity to safely develop his skills and judgment before moving on to a machine that demands self-restraint.

Having acknowledged that some riders (young, inexperienced men and boys) and some bikes (high-perf sportbikes) are bad combinations, I must strongly disagree with your claim that motorcycles are “not even remotely safe”, and that the OP should find a way to get his son off the bike. Motorcycling isn’t for everyone, and if you are risk-averse or have personally suffered a loss because of motorcycling, then it’s understandable that you might be a bit phobic about it. Me? My life would be very different (and probably much less interesting) without motorcycling, and I know many of my friends feel the same way. It’s not risk-free, but then nothing is. I’ve lost a cousin and a good friend to motorcycle accidents; those were horribly sad days, but just as car accidents don’t deter me from driving, motorcycle accidents don’t particularly deter me from riding.

Just to add to all the excellent advice here, two of the top tips from my bike course: When riding past parked cars, watch the wheels for signs that the car is about to pull out, and, the distance between you and a row of parked cars is a minimum the length of one and a half car doors.

I will reiterate the advice, you are always invisible. Always assume the other vehicles do not see you, and always have an escape route. Assume the car coming from the right won’t stop, assume the car turning into your lane from the left will pull out in front of you. Assume parked cars will pull out in front of you. Luckily motorcycles are smaller than cars and can fit in some tight spaces.

MSF course is a must, and is quite fun.

I have an uncle who has been riding for over 50 years. Other than the obvious (wearing good-quality safety gear), he says the most important accessory is a BRIGHT brake light. Whenever he purchases a new motorcycle, the first thing he does is replace the OEM brake light with an ultra-bright, pulsating LED light.

I’m 44 and have always wanted a motorcycle. I know I would love to ride one. Every five years or so I go to look at them. And then I talk myself out of it.

Why? Whenever I meet someone with a limp, it seems nine times out of ten it was due to a motorcycle wreck. And those are the lucky ones. It really makes me think.

If I end up seriously injured or dead, my wife and children will pay the price. I guess it’s just not a risk I am willing to take.

I’m going to call confirmation bias on the 9 times out of 10 ratio. But ignoring that, from now on, every time you talk to someone that’s been in any kind of motorcycle accident, ask them if they took the MSF class. I’ll bet 9 out 10 of them say no.

Also ask them if they’ve been drinking. There are way too many bikers who drink and drive, just as there are too many people drinking and driving other vehicles.

Agreeing here with everything Machine Elf says.

Here’s another take on SMIDSY. :slight_smile:

So much astoundingly good advice has been written above, that I don’t have much to add (weird, I know) but I’ll throw a couple in anyway:

Super-emphasis on the MSF course. The beginner course typically requires students to use their bikes (125’s and 250’s – it’s not that big of a practice course to whiz around anyway). The better ones arrange to have a DMV representative present at the final exam – you’re doing their test and your final at the same time and if/when you pass, you’re allowed to complete the rest of your paperwork for the license. [Maybe your state budget has cut that program by now.] Also, I sent a photocopy of my MSF certificate to my insurance agent and got a 10% discount on the premiums for a few years. The Intermediate course is good, too, but the MSF schools in my state said they wouldn’t take anyone into the Intermediate course without 2 years of riding experience so I couldn’t just go from Beginner straight into Intermediate. My friend took the beginner course with me, as a ‘refresher’ after 10 years of riding, and he still said he learned several new techniques.

If you’re using MSF bikes to train, you probably won’t need to haul the bike around in your truck. Nevertheless, if there’s a need to haul it, I did this a couple times, for various reasons: I found a store or warehouse with a loading dock and a pedestrian ramp. I went to the place during non-business hours (the owners’ insurance frowns on non-employees playing on the docks), rolled my bike up the ramp, and backed the U-haul up to the dock as flush as possible. Rolling or riding the bike into the U-haul was then either a flat transition or a slight drop down. Then, with the bike centered left/right, I’d use straps to pull the handlebars down and forward (evenly) so the front shocks kept tension on the straps. Then I’d use an extra bight of strap to squeeze down the hand brake to inhibit rolling. Once, I even tied a small dumbell to the end of the foot brake pedal to lock the rear wheel as well.

Last comment: The trend in repealing helmet laws comes from the same place as the trend in establishing them came a couple decades ago: Insurance companies. Only now they’re discovering it’s cheaper to pay a “Sorry, he’s a goner” one-time death benefit than to pay “Whoops, he’s alive but useless” injury claims over several (say, roughly twenty?) years.

It’s all about the money; safety and even life/death are secondary considerations.
–G!
Disclosure: I work in the insurance industry.

[COLOR=Navy]There are two kinds of motorcycle riders, my friend:
A) Those who have come to know the value of good riding skills and protective gear.
B) Those who will.[/COLOR]

Sunburn rule.

If you have to apply sunscreen, anywhere, when you go for a ride, you are not adequately protected against abrasion in that place.

If your visor isn’t UV-proof, you need a better visor at least and should think about a better helmet.

MSF course, definitely. DMV exemption for written exam may vary by state. Here in CA after completing the course the rider is given a DMV certification of completion (DMV DL-389) that exempts them from taking the written exam. After passing MSF, the DMV riding test is a trivial exercise.

Helmet? Not even a question: yes. Supporting data are clear on this, and most (if not all) arguments for not wearing one are urban legends.

As the saying goes, dress for the fall, not for the ride.

Motorcycling is about accepting, knowing, managing and being responsible for the risk. It’s not for everyone but when done properly it’s rewarding.