Movies that insult your intelligence.

Any move that has an “anti-virus” or an antidote for a viral infection such as Outbreak and Mission Impossible 2, make me crazy.

When Rene Russo suddenly got better after being infected by Marburg virus, I almost screamed.

To all Movie Makers: These things do not exist! A viral infection is just that. It’s an infection. If you want antidotes, stick to chemical weapons.

I always figured the door at the end of Titanic was only big enough for one, but I didn’t study the logistics of the scene too closely.

Now if Rose had just stayed in the damn lifeboat…

Interesting. I had no problem with the eating ash; there are plenty of examples of animals with specialized diets (the koala and eucalyptus). Perhaps the dragons needed elavated levels of potassium, for example. The single male is a slightly bigger stretch, but here too there are existing examples, like queen bees. And a single male with lots of females makes more sense then the other way around, since it allows for widely distributed egg hatcheries.

On the other hand, I stand by my original objections as not being nits. How big is the US military? How many bases? How many personnel? How many planes, tanks, transports, etc? Are we to believe that the dragons were intelligent enough to strike at all military targets first and simultaneously, wiping out all the bases before a response could be mobilized? I don’t think so, they’d be flying around, scorching crops and dining on the ash. The military would have plenty of time, once the threat became clear, to mobilize against it.

My mention of fireproof planes was kind of tongue-in-cheek; in reality, I don’t think such would even be needed. Massive air strikes with heat-seeking missiles and the dragons would be toast. The scientists and recon people would quickly find a way to locate the hatcheries (like back-tracking where the things flew from?), and the eggs would be destroyed. End of problem.

I think the problem with folks enjoying movies like this is the fact that they aren’t meant to be “realistic” in any sense. It’s a movie about fire-breathing goddamn dragons, fercryinoutloud! Once that element is introduced, there is nothing that can be done to make it “real”. So, I stand by my objections to your objections :slight_smile: If you want a movie that resembles real-life, don’t watch movies with dragons or aliens or prehistoric monsters or anything like that in them.

Having said that, my objections to movies like Jurassic Park do not stem from the fact that the people in it were stupid and deserved to be eaten, or that the dinosaurs existed at all, thanks to some very dubious science. I can live with that. It’s that they got some very basic things wrong with the dinosaurs. Things like misspelling the names, for one, I do find insulting to my intelligence (speaking only for myself). You can look that up in a book, and they had a freakin’ advisor on the staff, just for that sort of thing. You can’t look up what the military reaction to an invasion of fire-breathing dragons would be. And different people have different ideas as to how that might, in the realm of the extremely speculative, happen. So, I have no problem with the possibility that the combined military might of the world’s nations can’t stand up to a bunch of fire-breathing dragons. It’s all make-believe anyway, and it sets up the story.

Of course, as with all things, YMMV (and probably does).

It takes like a whole big ass syringe full of air to cause an embolism a few air bubbles in a serum wont hurt you.

Flubber

Yes, I know it was a kid movie, but still.

Guy gets hit in the head by a bowling ball that has gone so high into the air that it takes 2 or 3 minutes to fall, and rather than splitting his head open like a watermelon dropped from the space shuttle on reentry, he goes “ooof” and staggers off, with a big bruise. Uh huh.

The flubber (why the hell was it alive??) does that stupid dance, and it divides into about 30 blobs… each the same size as the original!

The professor puts flubber on his shoes and has a hard time just putting his foot down without it bouncing up, yet the basketball players can run around freely with no effect until they want to jump.

He’s all excited that he’s developed this way to make his car fly… well how the hell does Weebo fly? Seems he’d already invented that technology!

I too can understand how the militaries of the world could be overwhelmed in Reign of Fire. Keep in mind we’re not exactly sure how many dragons there were- this would have been when they had the greatest numbers. For all we know there could have been more dragons than rats. Considering that each one is a certified killing machine, it’s easy to believe they could have destroyed even the US Army, especially if they had been smart enough to go after C3I first -we’re not exatly sure how smart they are.

I have no plans to watch the movie again, just so I can re-view that scene :), but I do agree with that interpretation. It’s not too far off from mine, right?

I came to my conclusion because they didn’t really experiment with the thing. It was like “Whoa, sinking! We can’t both be on it right now! Jack, get off*!” And they then left it at that. I figured the decision for Rose to stay on it must’ve been made, unspoken.

Anyway, aside from the fact you can’t otherwise make floating Jacksicles, you have to wonder why they didn’t experiment with the weight on the door. I mean, gee, it wasn’t like they didn’t have time. You can’t tell me his gentlemanliness or enduring love for Rose quelled any desire to get his ass out of the freezing water. Before it numbed, that is.

[sub]* = You are horrible, dirty-minded little people. No wonder I’ve stayed here so long.[/sub]

Hola!
The words BELIEF and DISBELIEF insult my intellegence. Same as the word PROOF, but not so much DISPROOF, which asks me to quantify my intellegence.

“What’s your belief about ***********?” Why don’t you make you own decision about this yourself? Oh, you are American, you don’t have an opinion about shit without asking everyone else in the world (and GOD save them if they don’t think like you.)

Your world is ending. Our thinking is now.

SENOR

Despite the best efforts of Hollywood, the copyright term on the bible probably has expired. :wink:

Of course I’m not telling him that. . .

This movie was based on an entirely true story, and as often happens IRL, people can make bad choices. I agree that it wasn’t heroic of them to go out and tempt fate for maybe $1000 a piece, but people that make their living on the ocean make those kinds of choices every day. Hell, people NOT on the ocean make stupid choices every day. Does it make an interesting movie? Maybe, maybe not. I think the book was more interesting than the movie in this instance, but it did have some cool special effects.

Guess maybe it would have been more believable if they had made it out of the storm and brought back a boat full of shrimp, huh??

Last night I watched XXX.

There was not a period of 60 consecutive seconds in that film that did not insult my intelligence. I am awestruck.

Really, entirely true? If they didn’t make it back, then who was there to tell it? It seems to me that everything between, “they went out,” and, “they didn’t return,” must have been pure speculation.

Actually, Greg, not the case. They were in touch by radio for quite awhile.


Daughter? What daughter?

I think that during the part they were telling her husband that Ashley Judd’s character could kill him in broad daylight that they were being…(dang migraine, what’s the word I’m looking for??), …being well,a word meaning they were PURPOSELY overplaying it.

As to the part about her not being able to prove it,yeah,I kinda wondered about that too,although, since she was on the run from her parole officer, she couldn’t exactly just waltz into the authorities and file a complaint, at least that’s the idea I got.

But you’re right, it wasn’t an overly great movie, just so-so. But I like both actors, thought they did a good job, and thought it was enjoyable despite the somewhat “stretched” interpretation of the law.

Ya know?? I often wondered about that!!! LOL.

Sorry I did like the movie though, the special effects and just the “feel” of it. And I’m a chick,I loved the love story. Based on what I’ve read (been interested in the Titanic since I was a kid), the historical portion of the story was fairly accurate (yes yes I know, I know,Of COURSE Hollywood had their little “things”), considering it was produced in tinseltown.


LOL,Okay, I LOVED this movie, it was SOOOOOOOOOOO campy and I died laughing for most of it.

But yes, I agree about the 500,000 rounds to kill one bug thing,I kept saying “GET a BETTER GUN!!!” during the whole thing!!!

But you gotta remember, THIS movie was NOT intended in ANY way to expect any “suspension of disbelief”. Campy movies are MEANT to be ridiculous.

There are a lot of movies that are insulting to my intelligence. I just watched a few recently. I’ll try not to include any spoilers.

Lost Voyage

I caught this piece of tripe on the Sci-Fi Channel not too long ago, and got sucked in because I have this lingering 80’s fascination with Judd Nelson.

Holy shit. Has anyone seen this thing?

In brief: Ship disappears in Bermuda Triangle. Ship reappears twenty years later and news crew goes aboard to film.

They take a helicopter to the ship. In the middle of a hurricane. I’m not kidding. The helicopter also appears to be one of those giant twin-rotor jobbies that the military uses. Where the hell does a news crew get one of these things?

The Coast Guard also has no idea that they’re there. The Coast Guard found the ship, and then…just…left it there? It’s supposed to be some huge mystery what happened to the ship, there’s tons of valuable salvage on board, and as far as I know, all found ships and their cargo become the possession of their finders on the open sea. But the Coast Guard just goes back to port and leaves the ship, the big mysterious ship that everyone’s been looking for for the past thirty years, just leaves it drifting aimlessly. Figuring, I guess, they’ll come back later, allowing the news crew time to illegally board the ship and get themselves into all sorts of trouble.

Said news crew also brings lots of super-duper recording equipment with them, and no visible power source. Yet the stuff works long before the ship’s generator starts working. Are we just not supposed to notice this?

And they’re going to film all this and presumably air it on national television, even though they know it’s a serious crime to board this vessel without express permission from the Coast Guard. They never thought maybe someone will see the broadcast and wonder just how they got this footage?

tears hair out

Gladiator

Now, I like this movie. I really do. But a few things just kinda bug me. For one, stirrups on the horses. I thought stirrups were a much later invention, and that the Romans didn’t use them. Am I wrong? This is what I was always told by my riding instructor. Please tell me I have not been living a lie.

And how the hell do you suffocate someone just by pressing their face to your chest? I can see how this might be possible with an infant, but an adult? Yeah, I know, he was dying, he was weak. But not that weak. Come on. And it’s not like Commodus was wearing some soft, puffy clothing that could maybe obstruct the airways just by the nature of the fabric. He was wearing armour, fercrissakes!

I know there are plenty of historical inaccuracies in the film, but I can gloss over them for the sake of the story. These two just don’t fit in with the internally consistent framework.

House On Haunted Hill (recent remake, not Vincent Price classic)

I watched this 'cause I’m a sucker for horror flicks and I like Chris Kattan. (Who I actually think was really funny in this movie.)

But come on. There’s just so much that makes no sense here. I get the angry ghosts seeking vegeance bit. Standard horror plot device. And I get the rest of the horror movie cannon, like splitting up the characters for increased vulnerability, exploring dangerous places, etc. All stupid behavior, but necessary to move the action.

But what about the complete ridiculousness of Geoffrey Rush getting shot about eight times from about ten feet away, and every single bullet either missing him completely or hitting him square in the chest, where he just happens to be wearing a bullet proof vest? And why was he wearing the bullet proof vest in the first place, since he states earlier that he himself loaded the guns with blanks?

Why would a giant cauldron of blood not have completely coagulated in the intervening 70 years?

If the whole place was on fire, and the metal plates were over every single exit point, then how did the five staff members escape in the first place? And why do all of the later guests have the same last name? Did none of the women marry? Did they just have kids and pass along their maiden names?

At one point, Famke Janssen (not a bad actress, IMHO) pretends to be electrocuted. She aparently took atropine to fake having a seizure. While this might work, why did she bother? Couldn’t she have just pretended to be seizing? And if it was supposed to look like she died from the electroshock, why were there no burns on her body at all? And why does she then kill the doctor, with whom she was in cahoots? And if the ghosts made the guest list, and neither rice nor his wife knew who was on it, then how the hell did the doctor end up at the house anyway, since they mention earlier that he’s not related to any of the original five esacped staff members?

Argh. The whole just did my head in.

Years ago, back in the SDMB AOL days, I posted a 14-point hatefest for the abominable Godzilla flick with Matthew Broderick. It is, without a doubt, the most infuriatingly intellectually insulting film I have ever seen. I actually got angry watching the thing.

I kinda wish I could find that post…but then again, I’m okay not digging through all my reasons for detesting that piece of CRAP.

Points I remember off hand:

  1. Helicopter evading Godzilla can’t outrun him! Oh no! What will it do? I don’t know, maybe fucking fly HIGHER than the thing? (Obviously, this pissed me off most)

  2. Godzilla is a freakin’ radioactive Galapagus iguana? That eats fish? Um…did ANYONE do ANY research!!! Iguanas are vegetarians. Someone take him to the salad bar at Sizzler already.

You know…I’m okay not bothering with any other points. Know why? Because the movie sucked. No, it SUCKED. I’m okay not ever accessing that part of my memory.

[sub]grrrrrrr…still pisses me off[/sub]

This goes back to may last post, somewhat: if you’re going to accept that a giant radioactive mutant iguana can exist at all, I don’t see how you can reasonably criticize its diet. It is, after all, a giant radioactive mutant iguana. And they’re not like other iguanas.

And if you can’t accept giant radioactive mutant iguanas in the first place, then you shouldn’t be watching Godzilla movies (or even “Giant Radioactive Mutant Iguanas That Are Called Godzilla” movies).

Again, this isn’t to say the movie didn’t suck. But I do find it interesting what people are willing to criticize, given what they apparently accept.