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I fell asleep during The Matrix the first two times I tried to watch it. Three times a charm, eh? Well I fell asleep the 3rd time i tried to watch too. Gah, crappy movie.
p.s. i’ve had waaaay too much to drink. Happy new years, happy Kwanzaa and so forth… 
Hooray! I’m as pissed as two goats and an engineering student, myself.
Cheers, MeanOldLady.
And the rest of you lot.
God bless us, everyone, and all that happy horse-sh*t.
Well, now, I enjoyed the Star Trek movie with the whales and all, but
don’t you think the ship would hear what the transplanted whales had to say (“they killed all of us, but made massive and dangerous efforts to bring two of us to the future rather than using their time and energy to stop the extermination that occurred in the past, thus saving many morewhales”), and on the basis of this continue boiling away the seas? I know I would.
Yes, but [spoiler]Then George and Gracie would die when the aliens probe fried the ocean they were living in. [/spoilers]What ruins the movie for me is the reference to Leningrad, because i have problems with sci fi that becomes historically inaccurate for some reason.
Shoshana, I think that influencing the “past” would violate the spirit of the sacred “Prime Directive.” Oh yeah, and create uncomfortable paradoxes… as if that mattered.
Defending Signs :
The movie is supposed to be unbelievable! (At least, I hope it was…) I laughed until I cried. I coerced my workmates to make and wear tinfoil hats and come see it with me (second time for me, first time for them).
We had a blast afterwards discussing the impossibilities…
And I cannot wait until Mystery Science Theatre mocks it!
Suggestion for those who haven’t seen it: Don’t try to suspend disbelief. Embrace disbelief. And get ready to laugh your hats off.
And, hey! Can anyone tell me how the Six Million Dollar Man was able to stop helicopters from taking off by pulling them down to the ground without his feet hanging on to anything?
The Mummy!
Hey, I’m new, I’m sort of jumping in here…
Mummy movies aren’t supposed to make sense, they are mummy movies.
I give something like The Mummy lots more leeway than Signs or Waterworld or The Matrix, where everyone is so damn earnest and trying to make a “serious” movie.
Amen. If the movie doesn’t take itself seriously, then why should I? 
I mean, nobody complains about the scientific impossibilities in Spaceballs, do they?
I loathed the 5th Element. I was really glad I saw it at a drive through so I could yell at the screen!
So many flaws, but what bothered me the most was the blue opera chick. She gets shot and Bruce Willis reaches into her to remove the stones. If she hadn’t been shot, just how was she planning on handing the stones over?
Anyone mentioned “Reindeer Games”? I haven’t seen it, I just read the script online, and if the movie follows the script, it has no respect for the audience’s intelligence.
Basic setup: Rudy and Nick (get it?) are cellmates. Nick keeps showing Rudy the letters and photos he gets from a beautiful woman he met through a pen-pal magazine. She will be waiting for him on the day Nick and Rudy both get out.
Nick is stabbed to death in a prison brawl. Rudy gets out and, against his better judgment, meets the woman and passes himself off as Nick.
He’s enjoying himself until her viscious brother shows up. Brother knows that Nick worked security in a casino and now expects “Nick” to help him rob it. Tough break for Rudy, who never set foot in the casino and who would be promptly killed if they think he is not Nick.
OK, it could have had promise as a noirish tale of deception and payback. But they had to get cute with the twists.
It turns out that Nick was not killed in the brawl. He staged it in order to set Rudy up for and absurdly complex plot. First, we have to believe that Nick managed to get a cellmate who would be getting out on the exact same day. His months or years of planning fall apart if either one of them gets out early for good behavior, is transferred to another facility, or incurs a penalty. Then we have to believe that Nick arranged to be stabbed just enough to make him look dead. Did they smuggle movie fx blood packs into the joint? Nick says he bribed the prison doctor to put out information that Nick died. This is wrong on so many levels I hardly know where to start. Did he bribe the entire prison operation, guards, ambulance attendants, and the newspapers? Also, a homicide in a prison is investigated just like one on the street, involving a police investigation and a coroner, not to mention newspaper reports. So Nick is getting himself stabbed on the chance that it won’t be fatal and no one will talk, and no one will hear. And all of this to set up a plot that hinges on so many other “ifs” that no one would have even considered it. Most of all, it depends on most of the casino-robbing gang getting killed, with just one or two survivors left to haul out the money so Nick can take it and kill the survivors. In movies like this, the culprit is supposed to be “the last person you’d suspect,” so of course you suspect Nick. In order to deflect that suspicion, they contrived a twist so improbable and convoluted that you have to lack logic to accept it and lack intelligence not to see it coming.
As I said, I didn’t see the film, just read the script. If it was done well, it might have been entertaining, but after reading it I certainly have no interest in seeing it. When they go to that length for the sole purpose of springing a thoroughly improbable surprise on you, they obviously think the audience is made up of doofi.
They could turn the forcefield on and off, 'member? It’s not so implausible that they could turn it off, put the coke can on, and then turn it back on for the demonstration.
Of course, this still doesn’t excuse the rest of the stupidity.
If she could get them in, why is it difficult to accept that she couldn’t just as easily get them out?
In the book, The Diva (Plavalaguna) is said to be somewhat telopathic, and mentions that her performance at Fhloston Paradise would be her last, hinting that she already knew that she would be killed. In addition, she is shot twice, once by the Mangalores, and once by another unknown source, also suggesting that either way she knew was going to be killed. This would also explain why she dies so gracefully.
Although the movie doesn’t do a good job of elaborating on these details, the audience could have assumed as much.
Except that I don’t recall him doing so. Did he turn it off and back on again? That would have been a very simple way to explain it; I just don’t remember them doing that. It’s been awhile since I saw that movie, though.
Red Dawn. You seriously ask me to believe that the Russian Army could mobilize three-four million troops, along with all their support personnel, tanks, planes, etc. and the U.S. government has no clue until the invasion??? Even the CIA, at their most incompetent, could not have missed this buildup.
Plus the whole “Europe is sitting this one out.” Bullsh*t! You think France, Spain, Italy, Great Britain, et.al. are going to be fine with the USSR getting rid of the only bullwark to Russian imperialism? Not to mention that there is no way China would sit still after Russion nukes their population down from 1 billion to 600 million.
This whole movie is a howler.
Actually, water didn’t hurt them, it made them multiply. So romping through the snow would just make more gremlins.
Remember, bright light hurt them, water made them multiply, and feeding them after midnight made them turn green and evil. Now if you want to pick on a logical fallacy, define “after midnight.” Is that strictly during the midnight hour? Between midnight and dawn? I mean, 8 AM is “after midnight,” but there were no rules against breakfast. Guess li’l Gizmo had to go hungry.
Maybe I’m thinking too hard, but I always imagined the ship had a “smart” force field, i.e., it would kick in only in the event of whatever was approaching the ship was perceived to be a threat. Human hand = not much threat to the hull of a spaceship. Fast moving projectile = greater threat.
Do I win a Marvel No-Prize[sup]TM[/sup]?
Almost any movie that is based on the premise that the world is unambigously divided into the forces of good v. forces of evil, and dramatizes that struggle on a massive scale so as to elicit cheerleading in the audience in lieu of thought or genuine feeling.
Ooops, I just described “Lord of the Rings.” (and a zillion other insulting movies)