Movies - Warriors questions Warriors, come out to playeeeaaayyy!

One other note I forgot to add. For the longest time, I saw a woman who reminded me of the “voice” on the radio… You never see her face, but you do see her lips and chin in the movie. With just those things and her voice, I recognized her in the children’s program “Where in the Word is Carmen Sandiego?”

Same lady! Same lower face and same voice! Lynne Thigpen, who died at the age of 54, according to IMDB.

Stay tuned, boppers. Stay tuned.

I’m a little confused about this “bad” movie called “The Warriors” that people keep mentioning; the only movie from 1979 I know by that title won the Academy Award for “Best Freakin’ Movie Ever Made.” :slight_smile:

The Warriors are definitely supposed to be bigger than just the nine delegates. In a deleted scene (ETA: which has now been linked to!) before the Warriors leave Coney Island, Cleon (the “Warlord”) meets with the other eight Warrior delegates at their hangout and tells them why he has chosen them from a “street family of 120 plus affiliates.” That didn’t make it in the movie, but they show that the Warriors are a fairly large and well established gang when Fox tells (lies to) the Orphans that their youth worker has mentioned them. That’s one of the few things that the movie gets right - to the youth street gangs of the era, having a youth worker was kind of a badge of honor, showing that they’d made it and were a force to be reckoned with. The Orphans admit that they don’t have one, and Fox assuages their egos by telling them that they probably don’t have one because everybody’s so afraid of them.

So why didn’t the Warriors at least try to call somebody/catch a cab/steal a car/go the opposite direction/do anything other than to run on foot in their colors directly into the gangs that wanted to kill them? Best not to think about it. No movie that way. :smiley:

As to why Swan and the surviving Warriors doesn’t call all of the other Warriors to fight the Rogues when they finally get to Coney, its because they’re psyched for a showdown and plan to administer a beatdown on the Rogues right then and there. They’re too badass to need backup!

If you liked the movie and like gaming at all, try to pick up a copy of “The Warriors” Rockstar games put out about eight years ago. A surprising number of of the movie cast reprised their characters on the game, even the actor who played Fox who walked off the set/was fired after a mid-movie switch to make Michael Beck’s Swan character the love interest of Mercy instead of Fox as originally scripted (which is why Fox gets thrown in front of a subway train in the middle of the movie). It’s a hoot, and a really fun game.

Boy, I’ll bet Swan (Michael Beck, I believe) was upset with that switch. Mercy was such a skanky looking woman. [RD]The last time I saw a mouth like that it had a hook in it. [/Rodney Dangerfield]

Yeah, I’m confused, too. Who doesn’t like “The Warriors”? And if you’re one of these Rotten Tomatoes people, it’s got a 94% rating there, too. This movie is awesome!

It could have been worse. The first version of the script had Swan being kidnapped by a gay S&M gang with leathers and Dobermans called “the Dingos,” while Fox got the girl and led the Warriors back to Coney. Seriously, I’m not making that up. The script had Swan escape and reappear for the final fight at Coney, but the implication was that his treatment in captivity was not gentle.

After I got hooked on the video game, I noodled around and looked up a lot of movie trivia and “where are they now” stuff - the voice acting in the game was so good (probably better than the movie!) I was interested in knowing what they’d been up to, and where the absent ones were. James Remar and Mercedes Ruehl both had very successful careers, others were moderately successful (Beck said “Xanadu” killed his movie career), some never acted again (Snow became a NY State Trooper), some died young (Rembrandt died of cancer in 1986 at age 28). Another piece of movie trivia that stuck in my head is that the actors were forbidden from leaving the set in Coney in their colors, because Coney’s real gang “The Homicides” would have messed them up.

I think John McEnroe’s wife did a great job with the theme song. :smiley:

Not to break any board rules, but maybe **Stink Fish Pot **in real life is associated with the movie, and still gets residuals. Why else get this movie into our mindset with such a silly premise. In the meantime, I need to buy a blue-ray. Time to introduce my sons to The Warriors.

Actual pictures of 1970s New York street gangs. They all look more or less like The Warriors. The Baseball Furies would have been mistaken for mimes and beaten senseless.

And kaylasdad99, the Furies wore what looked like Yankees pinstripes without any logos. Nobody would have been afraid of the 1979 Mets. (Well, I would probably keep my eye on Dock Ellis.)

In the deleted scene Cleon says that he hand picked their best fighters, which would help explain why they could stand up so well against the Furies. Although it makes you wonder more why Rembrandt was picked. Surely he wasn’t the only one who could sling spray paint.

I’m going to watch it right now!

Yeah that’s right Dopers, just keep walking. Real tough mothers ain’t ya. You guys don’t show me much. Why don’t you dickheads just walk all the way back home huh?

Dude. His name was Rembrandt. Obviously he was the slingiest paint-slinger who ever slang paint on Coney Island :D.

But Ajax does note in the deleted opener that he will “just slow them down.”

ETA: Bit it is an interesting contrast with “music man” Snowball, who never gets to break out his no doubt killer tunes, yet was obviously a badass. Unless the soundtrack tunes were all being played by Snowball and all those fights were set to music :eek:. My God! The entire complexion of the film is changed - it all looks choreographed, because they were actually fighting and running to Snowball’s carefully prepared soundtrack. The Warriors are the best at everything!

I’ve been outed! Seriously, you have to blame IFC. They ran it back to back last night. Yes, I watched it both times. I’m so ashamed.

Didn’t know about the video game until you mentioned it. YouTube has some hilarious clips.

As for the other, first draft of the script. Gawd, that’s a tough choice for Beck.

More Warriors trivia. James Remar and David Patrick Kelly were both in 48 hours, opposite Nick Nolte and Eddie Murphy. Remar was the convict busted out of prison by the Indian, and Kelly was Luther, the guy Murphy hit with the car door. Both movies were directed by the same guy, so they must have made an impression in the Warriors.

Rembrandt and Cowboy were the odd choices. Cowboy is short, no muscle tone, can’t run for shit, and ends up on his ass in every fight scene.
I can’t remember Who mentioned Dock Ellis, but my favorite Dock Ellis story… When he was with the Pirates, he once told the manager that he was going to hit every Reds batter he faced.

He hit the first four guys before he was taken out of the game.

Dock was rumored to have a substance abuse issue. He threw a no-hitter on cocaine, and has said in interviews he doesn’t remember any of it. That’s scary.

Sorry, correction. Dock threw the no-hitter against San Diego on acid.

Funny story:

The movie came out right before I went to Manhattan for college for a Summer semester (between 11th and 12th grade of high school). My mom saw the movie and almost didn’t let me go.

That’s probably the reason for including him, especially if you want to fanwank it (and who doesn’t?). Rembrandt is young and inexperienced but is the best artist in the Warriors, and Cleon doesn’t just want tags of the gang’s name thrown up, he wants impressive pieces to show the rest of the city that the Warriors are a heavy set, or “burners” in the parlance. Burners will take more time than a quick tag of the gang’s name, thus Ajax’s grumble that it will"slow them down," but Rembrandt is the guy for the job.

Wow. I probably haven’t heard that in 20 years.

Good thing she didn’t see Escape From New York. :smiley:

But the only time we see Rembrant do his thing, he paints a red “W” on a tombstone. Nothing fancy… Just a good, standard, Sesame Street “W”. But he used the spray paint again when he nailed the “Punk” on the roller skates in the subway men’s room.

Not to mention they would have to wait around for 40+ minutes for whoever they called to come in from Coney and pick them up.

And where are they going to find two cabs to drive 8 guys in gang colors out to Brooklyn?

WE got the streets, suckers!

Mercedes did have some uniformed cops for backup and there were a shit-ton of cops at the 96th Street station. One of the Warriors fell on the tracks and got run over by a train while fighting with a cop.

But I did like the interracial skinhead gang in the prison bus!