moving US embassy to Jerusalem thread

The IDF didn’t kill all 2000+ of them.

Some people trust governments (and that government’s information and justification) when their forces shoot masses of unarmed (or mostly unarmed) protesting poor people, and some people are more skeptical. Sometimes it depends on the race/religion of those being shot and those doing the shooting.

A bunch of brown, desperately poor people got shot, and none of the soldiers doing the shooting were killed, and only one was injured by a rock? No big deal. That’s pretty normal, in fact, and doesn’t require any extra attention. Doesn’t require skepticism, or investigation, or anything but a confident nod and the trust that those soldiers, and their leaders, didn’t, and couldn’t, do anything wrong.

Wrong again. I asked you to paraphrase “Imagine the desperation …” At this point I’m sincerely concerned you’re unable to connect the dots here.

No, you’ve confused yourself. “Imagine the desperation” was from a tweet I posted about the rioters being armed with the occasional molotov cocktail or grenade. You can go back and read post #154 to confirm this. What you asked me to paraphrase was this:

RTFirefly did not post “Imagine the desperation …”.

Who posted it is irrelevant. I’m trying to find out what you can grasp about the sentiment behind that tweet.

In another thread, right-wingers bragged that they can understand centrist ideation, but not vice versa. I’m conducting a little test of that. Let me re-repeat your assignment in a larger font:

Paraphrase the sentiment behind the tweet. Demonstrate that you can grasp the human sentiment expressed, whether you are capable of empathizing with it or not.

Yep.

Hamas warned it’s members to avoid the fence lest they be shot, while encouraging protesters to breach the fence. Once the fence was broken, armed Hamas fighters would enter Israel.

I was watching a few talking heads on euronews and one of them was a former American Army officer. He said basically, that he faced masses of extremely angry and pissed off people regularly in Iraq and Afghanistan, but he managed to handle the situation without causing 2000 casualties. The Israelis were either incompetent or malevolent.

It would have looked better for them if the Palestinians had breached the fence and Hamas fighters had come through after them and begun shooting Israelis, but I can understand their reluctance.

I don’t particularly enjoy your assignments / quizzes / tests / playing “Simon Says” with you. Yes, I understand the theory behind their actions (that they’re oppressed and miserable and this causes them to lash out in angry and violent ways). I don’t find it a very persuasive or sympathetic perspective, but I do “grasp” it.

Hamas fighters were shooting at Israelis:

The IDF says that it was all justified. Nothing to see here, folks! Bull Connor said his actions were justified too. No need to be concerned or skeptical. Certainly no need for an investigation or anything like that. Trust government, trust the soldiers, without question… as long as they’re shooting the right people, anyway.

I’m fairly confident that they’ll investigate / review their uses of force. In the meantime, with the evidence available to me, I’m inclined to believe that there were Palestinians attempting to harm Israelis yesterday.

With all the shit that’s been happening over something that should have happened like 2 decades ago, Sometimes I wonder if some of the Middle Eastern unrest could have been solved if Israel never became a country.

Good thing they were all shot before anyone was harmed.

I doubt it. They would just be fighting over different issues.

Or if we had just let that German fellow finish up his Solution to the Jewish problem.

Jesus. :rolleyes:

The same could be said for Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Iran along that line.

These are the guys waiting to come through the breach in the border fence.

Sophistry. How many did they shoot?