I’m still curious if Clothahump still uses ethnic slurs, or still thinks it’s okay to do so, or if he’s changed his mind. The first time I challenged him on this he didn’t respond honestly, but I’m still curious as to his actual thoughts.
You’re really asking for yet another “Fuck off”, aren’t you?
I’m hoping not. But, considering some of the sniping he and I have done at each other over the years, it wouldn’t surprise me.
I would guess that he did not see 70% of these posts, and did not bother reading about another 25%.
I don’t understand how anyone of any political position can fail to see that saying “every time” and “all liberals” and “automatically” is going to be wrong. How can anyone defend saying “all liberals” as “obviously true”? Is this someone who doesn’t understand the meanings of words?
These are words used by a self-confessed troll, who posts only to get a negative response, and then revels in that negative response by painting himself as the victim. It’s not really much more than that.
My theory is that he tells himself he’s only persecuted because of his political beliefs to make him feel better. Rather than admit the fact that people don’t like him because he’s a total dipshit.
Thank you, Clothahump, for addressing my two followup points.
As to (1) although you didnt say it clearly, I’ll assume that your response means that yes you did read the referenced thread before posting. Although this still leaves me wondering why, if you read for comprehension before posting, you went ahead and posted what you did in defense of the OP and as an attack on his detractors, and whether your acknowledgement that your statement was out of place is also acknowledgement that, in the context of that thread, your defence of the OP and your snipe at his detractors was inappropriate. (If you do acknowledge this within yourself, that’s great, and you may be thinking “didn’t I already say that?” but from my perspective I haven’t yet seen that. What I have seen is a very brief admission that your comment was out of place, followed by a greater insistance that it is somehow still valid, regardless of context. Although you have now said your post was “wrong”, so mabe this is the response I was hoping for. I can’t yet be sure.)
As for (2), I don’t think you’ve quite yet addressed the question head-on, although you’ve at least offered a relevant clarification of your perspective, which I’d like to come back to later. The question was whether you can recognize that the derision you recieved in that thread (and this) is a result of the content and context of your posts.
As to your apparent disgust of ad hominem attacks, although it isn’t strictly-speaking ad hominem, I will observe that I have never seen any other poster resort to a “fuck off” retort as often as you. In my opinion that ranks pretty high for vehemency and derision.
If I make a dericive remark against another poster in the Pit, I fully accept that it may earn a “fuck off”. But if I’ve also presented a logical or reasonable challenge along with my derisive comment, on a message board whose stated primary mission is to fight ignorance, and I see the target of my post ignore the logic and focus on the derision, I’m apt to dismiss that poster.
Maybe in your own mind you feel that this describes your own perspective, but I’m saying that while I’ve observed you making many inflammatory and derisive comments, I haven’t yet seen you make any logical arguments. And your statement above is quite simply not a logical conclusion.
To your credit, you are at least responding reasonably to me here and have explained your perspective.
Anyway, if you could please directly address the question I put to you in point (2), above, then I hope we can move on to discussing the points I presented in my OP.
Thank you for keeping the door open.
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Your name isn’t actually Clothahump, is it?
And maybe it is.
But it’s more likely that it’s not them or you being the asshole, it’s them and you. It seems like you’re saying that you’re squeaky clean in those conversations. I can assure you that you’re not. It’s somewhere in the middle.
I’m really not sure what you are looking for here. In the context of the threads, my post should not have been made. I can’t state that any clearer or plainer.
Saying 'fuck off" is not an ad hominem response. It is not a direct attack against someone, it’s letting them know that they are being annoying. Since it’s a true statement, there’s nothing derisive about it.
And therein lies the difference. I don’t see posts that present logical or reasonable challenges. I see name-calling and responses at the level of a five year old. On a board whose stated primary mission is to fight ignorance, that is sad beyond belief.
Really? As an example, for the last eight years, I and many other conservative posters continually pointed out what a miserable failure Obama was as President. We would post reports of his screw-ups and then get shouted down. We were proven correct over and over and over again. Most of the others are gone because they weren’t willing to put up with the bullshit attack responses. I guess I’ve got thicker hide or something, I don’t know.
In what manner is it not?
When I am approached with reasonableness, I will always try to respond in kind.
I believe I have.
You’re welcome.
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No, of course not. But can you say irony?
And I have to say this: you say that you are a liberal. You are the first one in a long damn time to post anything in a reasonable manner to me, and I thank you.
I neglected to answer this earlier. Superdude is on ignore, so I don’t know what he said.
I know I’m on ignore too. Because you don’t like when people point out that you are constantly wrong.
I’m on ignore? Wow. I’ve been one of his milder critics. As I’m sure a few have noticed.
Precious Snowflake likes to dish it out, but can’t take it. He’s fundamentally a coward and a hypocrite.
That’s a damn dirty lie.
All other things aside for now,
Once more, I’d like to ask you:
Can you recognize that at least some of the derision you received in the referenced Pit thread (all other threads aside for now) was, on this one occasion, justified by the (acknowledged) inappropriateness of your post?
Thank you.
(I am glad that you are now acknowledging the importance of context.)
Assuming my quoting this means you can now see it:
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Maybe you should unblock him.
I thought it was against board rules to say who you have on ignore; am I wrong?
If you weren’t a mod, you’d have been on ignore a long time ago. You’re one of the biggest assholes on this board, and you have no place calling me a hypocrite.