Shocking twist: Mr. Robot is real, E Corp is imaginary.
It’s interesting that AMC has a new series called Humans which is all about robots, and USA has Mr. Robot which isn’t.
After tonight’s episode, I think Mr Robot being a figment of Elliot’s imagination isn’t really supposed to be a twist exactly. I think they expect the audience to realize that, with all the talk of daemons and such and the moment when someone finally interacts with Slater but it turns out to be in a fever dream. Have we ever seen what Elliot’s father looked like? I bet we will see a photo of him at some point and it’ll be Christian Slater.
I love the episode titles btw.
Yea, I think having a “reveal” moment would make it too derivative of Fight Club, so I like the idea of just never addressing it, and letting the audience figure it out.
That said, now that Mr Robot is a hallucination, they really could do to develop the other hackers more. Black nay-sayer hacker and party girl hacker were pretty annoying in this episode, and the others barely get any speaking time.
In the latest episode, Mr. Robot and the nay-sayer seem to speak directly to each other, talking about what to do about Elliot, but it’s while Elliot is in withdrawal, so maybe it’s still unreliable narration.
Dream sequences often seem like a waste of time on shows, but I thought the one last night was really well done. And I’m sure has lots of Easter eggs to spot.
I did love the two hackers watching Hackers on TV while Elliot was in bed. And I liked party girl and the other girl hacker together.
The other great thing about this show is that it has a definite sense of style. The camera shots, the lighting, the music (the soundtrack!), the voiceover, they all form a coherent whole that’s very cinematic and stakes out its own ground among what’s on TV right now. I’m in, and it would have to have a pretty huge drop in quality to lose me before at least the end of the season.
I don’t think so, i think the nay sayer was speaking to the fat guy, the camera was just focused on mr robot. It was him and the other guy who left after that convo wasn’t it?
I think it was purposely ambiguous. It looked like naysayer asked Robot what they were going to do, and then told Robot to make sure Elliot drinks the remedy. Naysayer could have been talking to the other hacker, but when naysayer and the other hacker left, there was no one else for him to be talking to about getting Elliot to drink the remedy. Unless he was telling Elliot to be sure to drink the remedy, but he didn’t seem to be more talking about Elliot than to him.
Wow this show is really good, anyone still watching it?
Possibly the most accurate portrayal of hacking and computers yet seen, there are no glaring headbangers in the dialogue or props. The dumbest thing yet was hacking a prison so all the cell doors open at once.
I love how dark it is, this is a seriously cynical and dark show and almost all characters are horrible people. It has a silly corporations are evil vibe but I can go with it, I love the black humor.
They are really playing with the unreliable narrator in Elliot, at this point I’m wondering if Mr Robot being a delusion is not a red herring, in the latest episode he interacts with people directly without Elliot present. But it is still possible Elliot is imagining himself as him, I’m wondering just what is real and how much of the show or even multiple characters are delusions.
It is basically Fight Club the show but I’m loving it!
Called that one.
I just got through episode 4. I usually hate shows with cobspiracy thories and ambiguous reality, but I’m completely hooked on this one.
Yeah, a movie can hit you with a twist like that because you only have a couple hours to process all the information. Everyone who watched Fight Club a second time was shocked at how many clues they dropped about what was really going on. We just didn’t have the benefit of discussing it week after week on a message board. When Elliot tells Mr Robot about his father tossing him out a window and Mr Robot sides with his dad and throws him over the edge… that’s a suicide attempt, it really can’t be anything else.
Yeah, him being Elliot’s dad was foreshadowed, but Darlene being Elliot’s sister took me by surprise. But now her behavior in earlier episodes makes more sense; as a random hacker that he just met she seemed obnoxious, but as an overbearing sister concerned about him she makes sense.
I’m intrigued to see what happens next. I don’t quite understand the hacking plan they have, but it’ll be interesting what they do there. And I have no idea what Tyrell is going to do next, and scared to see what his wife is capable of.
My take on this…
Elliot’s mental issues are a smokescreen, something else is going on.
In the latest episode Tyrell met with Mr Robot, either a real person or Elliot this has yet to be revealed. Tyrell had some kind of epiphany.
The E corp hack is going to succeed but not be really important, it childish to imagine taking down one creditor and their backups will bring down society.
Guessing the whole E corp hack, White Rose dark army thing is a manipulation for the real eventual plot(This can’t go on forever, and neither can Elliots real or fake dilemma).
I’m not clear on how Elliott is supposed to have “forgotten” that Darlene is his sister and Mr Robot is his father. Is he an amnesiac or is he just mentally ill? And how come Mr Robot never greeted him as his father?
I think he’s mentally ill, though I don’t know what specific type of mental illness he would have.
It seems the possibilities regarding Mr. Robot are the following:
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[li]Mr. Robot is Elliot’s alive dad[/li][li]Mr. Robot is a Tyler Durden type figure who Elliot made look like his dad[/li][li]Mr. Robot is actually the real person and Elliot the fake projection[/li][li]Something else[/li][/ol]
Number 1 seems possible. It could be that he faked his death, or that it’s actually Elliot’s mom who died, and we thought it was his dad because Elliot is a unreliable narrator. Number 2 seems the most likely with how things have been filmed, and how Mr. Robot seems to show up at convenient times and places. Number 3 seems pretty unlikely to me, but I’ve seen it speculated on various sites. And of course, there could be some other curveball that’s thrown at us.
If the first option is the correct one, surely Elliott’s dad would have said something to him to express concern about his mental illness.
Basically, the “unreliable narrator” seems an excuse for an inconsistent storyline, and a mind-fuck of the viewer. I’m not sure I like it.
I think 1 and 2 are still on the table, 3 can’t be possible because of Angela.
Didn’t Elliot mention his mom beat him so bad he ended up in the hospital with BRAIN DAMAGE in an earlier episode? Did I imagine this? Am I real?
Elliot’s missing mom is a giant red flag though, who raised Darlene?
He met Mr Robot and then went home and talked to his wife about what he saw Elliot doing, what he thought a petty revenge plot (framing Colby) was actually much bigger. That was a pretty big hint he met Elliot, not Mr Robot.
I just started watching this show and it is really deep. Very well done. Very much over my head.
I feel like I will have to watch each episode several times to begin to understand what is going on.
Just to be clear, I really like it.
But can anyone tell me why he destroyed that man’s life the way he did at the beginning of the first episode? Did he just despise people who engage in child pornography? If so, is that because he was somehow abused as a child?
I’m just trying to understand what is going on.
But I really love having found a show that is a lot smarter than I am. It’s great to be challenged like this.