Not like the esteemed and neutral Paul Krugman, most assuredly!
If the only way you can think of defending AOC is to say “Trump is worse” then either she isn’t very defensible or you suck at it. You’re like the people who defend Trump with “It’s not like he’s Hitler”.
Nobel Laurate Paul Krugman? Yeah, that guy is nothing like Paul Krugman. Paul Krugman is a brilliant economist, who upsets right-wing morons by speaking his mind. That other guy is an under-educated parrot.
I think it’s fair to say that Paul Krugman is smarter and more accomplished than every single one of his detractors combined. (And I’d be right.)
I really hate to introduce the term “whataboutism” because I think it’s heavily overused in our discourse, and I’ve held my tongue thus far, but indeed, there has been a fair amount of it when the topic of Cortez’ blunders rears it’s head.
…it wasn’t a defense of AOC. I’m glad to be able to clear that up for you.
By “esteemed”, you’re recognizing his Nobel Prize? However non-neutral he may be, your guy sure doesn’t look it either and is a damn sight less esteemed.
Yes, it was. Rather clearly, it was “whataboutism”.
Krugman is neutral in the sense that he follows the facts. If the facts supported “right-wing” economic models, he would too. But he doesn’t suffer fools gladly, and a lot of right-wing economists are fools, so he’s made some enemies.
…no it fucking well was not.
No it wasn’t.
Once again, if you need any further clarification please let me know.
No, it isn’t. Moving money from one part of the budget to another is an interdepartmental transfer. Those can be documented and traced. You can see where the money came from and went to.
Plugs are not documented with underlying documentation or able to be traced. At the end of the accounting period, the financial statements need to balance. If they don’t balance, and the accounting is sloppy, some people will just solve for X and plug in the number on the side that needs to be balanced.
You can tell that they’re not talking about interdepartmental transfers because they documented how much money went in and out of the accounts. The plug numbers can’t be tracked like that.
Now I see why the Vox author thought that it was just transfers between departments. But no, that’s not what those numbers represent. He’s misunderstanding the article to correct AOC.
The title of that article said almost the opposite of what the content said. How do you find those?
Because, you know, no one anywhere has given one iota of thought to this issue, and, obviously, under a Medicare-for-All system, nothing at all would change in the malpractice/malpractice-insurance marketplace. Because, you said so, I guess.
You are beyond ridiculous. Your entire reponse to the OP is complaining about how bad Giuliani is and is finished with the already quoted:
“If the OP is concerned about people “floundering in the depths of confident cluelessness” then you only need to look at the current administration to find more relevant examples than anything Ocasio-Cortez has ever done”
That is the fucking dictionary definition of “whataboutism”. You are going to sit there and ask if I need further clarification? Quit lying about your posts that are a short scroll above. Jesus Christ, you’re free to think Trump is worse, I agree, but just fucking admit that’s all you said.
…the bit “you already quoted” is out of context. My post wasn’t a “complaint” about “how bad Giuliani is”. Its obvious you didn’t read my entire post. Perhaps you should do that before accusing me of being “like the people who defend Trump with It’s not like he’s Hitler.” Subtly and nuance really don’t seem to be your thing.
My post wasn’t a "defence of Ocasio-Cortez. If I had intended to offer a defense of Ocasio-Cortez then I would that would have been crystal clear: but that wasn’t my intent. I’m not lying.
I’m going to sit here again and offer to clarify things for you but it seems clear that you aren’t interested in hearing it, and as my responses seem to be increasingly making you angry its probably best I don’t interact with you any more.
I’m going to correct myself on this. The article is using the term plug in a different way that I’ve seen it used before. It’s still not an interdepartmental transfer. And it’s still a placeholder that doesn’t have documentation and isn’t traceable. But it’s not solely sloppy accounting. There’s some intention behind it to hide the actual numbers.
DoD also did plugs of the kind that I referred to, but the plugs in the article are over and above that.
I know you’re just being sarcastic, but for “thinkers” like Shodan or Hurricane, this really does require higher math. You could have shown them some courtesy and linked to a YouTube for third-graders that would walk them through this.
Ok.
The Urban Institute says pretty much the same thing, as has been mentioned.
Regards,
Shodan
If doubling federal income taxes is insufficient to cover the cost of M4A, then it is necessary for the deficit to increase.
Actually what I am saying - or rather, what the report is saying - is that IF we dramatically cut payments to health care providers, and IF we dramatically cut drug prices, and IF we cut administrative costs, and IF we double federal income taxes, we will increase the deficit.
Regards,
Shodan
If this is the case, if this REALLY is the case, we should give up on the idea that we have a functioning governmental system and let Canada take over.
If we are literally incapable of implementing a system of health care that has already been done in dozens of countries, it’s time to end this idiotic experiment in governance, and go with something that works.
Here we have yet another post from Grand Dragon Shodan affirming another person of color is stupid as shit.
I know this’ll upset my patchouli smelling liberal friends but there is nothing wrong with whatbaboutism. Although whataboutism is a tool of white supremacy, it is also one of the only tools that white supremacists understand. White liberal reluctance to use the rhetorical tools of white supremacy is the reason white supremacists are winning, and you’re not. White folks don’t speak in truth, they speak in equivocation and whataboutery. In fact, white folks, in my view, are incapable of recognizing the fucking truth. We saw this with Dr. Ford.
Whataboutism is effective in pointing out hypocrisy. Pointing out that white supremacists like Grand Dragon Shodan is holding 29-year-old not-sworn-in congresswoman to a higher standard than the President of the United States says a lot about his (white supremacist) frame of reference. You have the President of the United Stated – elected by white people – get on national television and claim that Frederick-fucking-Douglas is out here fighting the good fight against slavery, and Grand Dragon Shodan - who collects children of color like beanie babies - was too busy virtue signaling to comment. He is literally an ambulatory dumpster-fire of white supremacy.
What you see Grand Dragon Shodan do is exactly what people of color experience in our lives at work. We. Have. To. Be. Perfect. If a white man misspells potato, it is not taken it as an indictment on his intelligence; if a black man misstates a fact (like 57 states), it taken as an indictment of his stupidity. Grand Dragon Shodan perpetuates the same trope for other people of color (like Ms. Ocasio-Cortez).
If this were a video game, Grand Dragon Shodan would be a level 999 racist. He’s mastered coded language to the point where he instinctively attacks the intelligence of people of color. I don’t even think he thinks about it. He just does. It’s quite an achievement. Grand Dragon Shodan even went down the path of arch-racists like Laura Ingraham and David French and adopted a person of color not to just appear more cosmopolitan but to virtue signal in order to deflect accusations of racism.