What do you call this then?
A compelling argument, to be sure, but have you ever played Donkey Kong in Lubbock?
At least you didn’t call me Streamwood, or Hanover Park!
(drifting in and out of a Grandpa Simpson reverie) And I even remember where North Glen Ellyn used to be. Folks these days think that was a town the Rand McNally people put on the map to catch pirates but, yep, it used to be there. It was a welding shop and a veternarian, but it was there.
Your high school English teacher just called, she’s on a ledge threatening suicide…
That’s HANGOVER Park, thank you very much.
Er…she was quoting me. I may fault Ms. Stream for her heartless conservative viewpoint, but I don’t want her being falsely pilloried for bad grammar.
Elucidator, you are well, and truly, an idiot. The bit you quoted was from jayjay, not me.
That’s not name-calling. That’s disparagement! Name-calling is Mr. Jones, down the hall, third door left…
Don’t bother. I deleted my cookies and I could vote in the poll again. I’m sure that someone with better computer skills than me could find an easier way to vote repeatedly in an online poll.
Squink, there are a lot of "if"s and "consider"s in the polls you cite. “If” President Bush was killing puppies on the White House lawn I’m sure a lot of people would “consider” impeaching him. Plus, both polls were commissioned by afterdowningstreet.org “a grassroots coalition that supports a Congressional investigation of President Bush’s decision to invade Iraq in 2003” which raises even more questions about their validity, and I say this as someone who would support a Congressional assbeating of Bush.
As to whether or not the DU or another liberal website is trying to sway the poll, well, Bush is running in the high 30’s as far as approval rating goes. So unless some of those people who approve of his job also want him impeached (unlikely) then the people voting in the poll are at least two-to-one over the national average in disapproving in Bush, and that’s assuming that everyone who disapproves of Bush thinks he should be impeached. It’s possible that there is something other than ballot box stuffing going on, but if so I’ll eat my hat.
You may, however, pillory her for having been here for several months already and not having figured out how to use the quote function…
Then you should have credited it to jayjay, goddamnit! I’ll go fix it, but c’mon, I’ve seen that you know how to use the quote function.
Luci, sorry for the mixup but that was MY high school English teacher, Mrs Stavros. She wants me pilloried for my excessive use of commas. And for starting sentences with conjunctions. AND for excessive of all caps and boldface. But, being dead and all, she doesn’t have much pull in this world.
Jeez Louise. I didn’t know how to quote from more than one post, so I winged it. Apparently badly. Sorry.
I think GWB should have been impeached years ago. But at this piont, as some of you have pointed out, it would take longer than he’ll be in office.
The real problem here is that he personally waged war on Iraq. It was a bad move, but now we are there and WE have created a huge mess. We can’t leave until it is fixed, since our president, GWegomaniacB created the problem on behalf of our mostly deluded country and so it has become our responsibility to FIX IT.
So what if the Democrats gained control of the House and the Senate. This mess is so major that only God can fix it. And I place the blame for this squarely on the shoulders of GWB. Impeachment is too good for him.
Sorry, 'lucy, but as gratifying as I might find such an overwhelming public sentiment, alas, it is true that these online polls mean absolutely nothing. Scientific polls have to use random samples. Polls with self-selected samples aren’t even really polls they’re just…I don’t know what they are. They’re basically just a button that says “press if you hate Bush.” Bill O’Reilly frequently trumpets polls from his own webset which feature similarly absurd numbers for such questions as “Did John Kerry intend to insult the troops?”
Even the way the question is phrased is geared towards getting an inflated number. Notice it acts if impeachment would be justified, but that’s not really the same as asking if the democrats should do. I would personally say that he deserves it but I think it would be a debacle to actually try it.
OK, here’s how I do it:
type [ quote=username ] (take out the spaces)
cut and paste the piece you’re quoting
type [ /quote ] (again, take out the spaces)
It’s accepted that you not put the username in the 2nd and following quotes, as long as they are all from the same post.
If you have any questions on how any of the VB tags work, you can always hit “Reply” on a post, and anything within marks is generally VB coding.
Thanks for the help.
Mini elections?
Look at the comfort Karl Rove takes from the Lieberman victory:
Now admittedly, Rove is off in Rumsfeld’s ‘known-unknown’ space here, but there is information to be gathered from such unscientific polls.
Here’s another recent self selecting poll: A new Beliefnet survey reveals why many Born Again Christians have cooled on Republicans and political fray, and a whole pile of them at Army Times.
If you know the bias of the polling site, and can convince yourself there hasn’t been a poll bombing campaign, you can identify trends that are simply not being looked at in a rigorous fashion.
That said, I don’t put much trust in this particular MSNBC poll beyond its showing that there’s still a substantial group for whom impeaching the ‘liar in chief’ is not off the table.
This other poll is a little over a year old, but really, why would it be different today?[url=afterdowningstreet.org]For Immediate Release: October 11, 2005
Poll: Americans Favor Bush’s Impeachment If He Lied about Iraq
By a margin of 50% to 44%, Americans want Congress to consider impeaching President Bush if he lied about the war in Iraq, according to a new poll commissioned by AfterDowningStreet.org, a grassroots coalition that supports a Congressional investigation of President Bush’s decision to invade Iraq in 2003.
The poll was conducted by Ipsos Public Affairs, the highly-regarded non-partisan polling company. The poll interviewed 1,001 U.S. adults on October 6-9.
The poll found that 50% agreed with the statement:
“If President Bush did not tell the truth about his reasons for going to war with Iraq, Congress should consider holding him accountable by impeaching him.”
44% disagreed, and 6% said they didn’t know or declined to answer. The poll has a +/- 3.1% margin of error.
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