Music Scholars - 80s Music - What does that mean?

I like 80s pop. I hear a pop song and can tell by the sound if it’s an 80s song. I hear the synth and think, “That’s sooo 80s.” But 80s music is more than just synth. The Doors used keyboards a lot in the 60s, and keyboards are still used today.

When I hear a David Bowie song, I can usually tell in just a few notes if its a 70s song or an 80s song, even if I’ve never heard the song before.

I know 80s music when I hear it, but I lack the tools to define it. What is it that makes 80s music 80s music? For that matter, what musical traits characterize and distinguish 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s songs?

What’s the difference, in musical terms, between Chuck Berry, Beatles, Queen, Duran Duran, Oasis, and whetever the hell the kids are listening to these days?

Another way to think about it is, if I wanted to write a song that sounded like a 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, or 00s song, what would I need to make “that” sound? It’s all drum, bass, guitar, keyboard, and vocals, but how are these things arranged differently to make a sound that’s readily idenifiable as a piece from a particular decade?

If I remember my bands, correctly, the Doors didn’t have a bass player at all; their keyboardist simply played a bassline with his left hand.

Okay, I am not a musical historian. I play three instruments, I compose and arrange tunes, and I get into this sort of stuff. However, this is an off-the-cuff answer and not the result of diligent research.

If I had to characterize the various eras of music, I’d say that the 50s could be defined by the popularization of the electric guitar, which was then primarily used as a backbeat; close harmonic formations vocals in counterpoint to the lead melody; use of horns as a soloist instrument; piano in the rhythm section; simple drum kit; and maybe the Hammond organ with Leslie rotary speaker. The recording medium was in monophone, and the speakers were small, so there wasn’t a great need for beefy electric bass or chest-rattling toms in the drummer’s kit. Most of the music of the 50s and early 60s I can think of doubles the bass into a vocal, a piano, or a standard guitar (a more tenor sound so the speaker cone can replicate it). Because of those tiny, tinny speakers, the dynamic range of the mix was fairly compressed into a narrow treble bandwidth designed to sound best on AM radio. Structurally, the songs changed chords at the beginning of the measure, and the cadence of the melody was sometimes syncopated (that is, the emphasis did not always fall, or the note begin, on the beat). Compare the regular rhythm of Bill Haley and the Comets “Rock Around the Clock” with Elvis and his syncopated “Hound Dog.”

(To define close harmony: you don’t skip over a note in the harmony. If a C chord can be made of C, E and G, then close harmony might be C then E then G. Open harmony might be C, skip E, G, skip C, E.)

In the 60s the electric guitar began to take leads, as people figured out new ways to make it talk (cf Chuck Berry and those twangy minor thirds he used to bang out). This involved technical advances like reverb, distortion, delay, and chorus effects; and adopting some more snappy harmonies like the added 6ths, 7ths to the tonic (the main chord of the key you’re in). Electronic synthesizers were still pretty primitive until the end of the 60s, but electric pianos were coming into use. As recording technology improved, it became possible to add more and more layers to the mix, adding strings and other acoustic instruments like flute. With better speaker technology, too, you started to get more bass, more toms for the drum kit, and overall you could produce a more dense song. Think Phil Spector. Syncopation continues to flourish (as it has pretty much since ragtime). Vocal harmonies sometimes included group singing (think the Mamas the Papas, the Beach Boys) instead of bop-sh-bop stuff.

The 70s saw the explosion of the Moog and ARP synthesizers and the rise of electronic drums. (Starting with The Who and their aborted Lifetouch album.) It also saw the evolution of the power chord: the root C and the fifth G without the meddling third, the E (which sounded muddy when run through a distortion box). With the advent of stereo recording, even higher-fidelity tape on which to record, and better-quality speakers, it was now possible to preserve the high end treble and the low-end bass better than before, and since it was possible to separate sounds in the stereo spectrum you could fit in a lot more distinct instrument sounds. I think the rock recordings of the 70s are much more spare in their use of instruments than previously; but we also have the pop/disco fragment that said “more is more” and filled the stereo space with as much as possible. With more instruments, we started to see a lot more rhythmic counterpoint and mid-measure chord changes. A few bands (such as Foreigner) began to do more with suspended fours and twos. (That is, CFG or CDG, instead of CEG.) We also began to see more duet solos (in thirds, ala Brian May of Queen) and doubled vocals (in thirds, not exactly a new invention) instead of the wah-wah-doo-wah-doo of the 50s. Keyboards played mostly a solo role against the rhythm section of guitar, bass, drums and sometimes piano.

Now we come to the 1980s. Digital recording was pioneered around this time; Billy Joel’s The Nylon Curtain of 1981 was digitally recorded. The fidelity of recording was higher than ever, and digital sampling enabled keyboards to more accurately replicate the sound of real instuments. MIDI solidified itself in the marketplace. Moreover, the market was becoming crowded with new, wholly synthesized digital instrument sounds. Programmable rhythms became possible, to repeat the same backbeat while the soloists performed. As a backlash against the Moogs and ARPs, some musicians turned to that fat horn sound again (such as the Tower of Power horns section, or Mussel Shores, et al). Acoustic instuments became solo instruments against the keyboard backbeat, reversing positions from the previous decade.

Somebody else can tackle the 1990s if they want. Me, I’d start the analysis with the subwoofer.

I stress that these are all just personal observations made up off the top of my head, and may in fact be completely subjective and/or a bunch of lies, depending on a) when you graduated from high school and b) what kind of music you listened to. :slight_smile:

FISH

Well, that’s maybe true for the live performances, but if you listen to the official recordings, it’s obvious that the punch of the bass line is not coming from a Hammond. I read recently that Ray freely admits that they cheated in the studio, and had a hired bass player.

That may well be, Cardinal. It was a tidbit I leard on late-night classic rock radio that I filed away. It might be more of a word game, though. F’rinstance, Billy Joel didn’t have a keyboard player in the studio – just himself doing double duty for most of his albums – but used one live because he can’t be on two instruments at once. Pink Floyd didn’t “have” a sax player, but obviously they used one when a song demanded it. And so on.

FISH

Echo was a big thing in the 80s; that tends to lend to a certain sound, I suppose.

So many 80s songs will have an awful lot of echo on the drums in particular.

I think also, 90’s music defintely took the power chord thing a lot more thoroughly than the other decades did. The early 90’s music seems to have in many instances simpler songs than the 80’s big crazy guitar solo thing, while other bands seemed to embrace it more. By the mid-90’s there was a huge resurgance of punk and ska, but more poppier than before. As the 90’s went on music became more electronic again, and finally ended with lots of teen pop people. In genres other than rock, you have hip hop becoming more flshed out than in the 80’s. 90’s music, lyrically, has more rage and anger in it than the previous decades.

I don’t know what the thing with 00’s music is. It seems like just an extension of the late 90’s right now, since we’re only 3 years into it. I think you have to be a few years out of a decade to actually be able to look back on it stylistically and see the trends.

There were certain sounds of the 1980s that influenced everyone else. Early Prince (Dirty Mind, Controversy, 1999, Purple Rain) was ripped off by pop musicians everywhere up to Madonna.

Then you had your metal. I liked Jesus and Mary Chain, Love and Rockets, Replacements, etc. I won’t get into the hair bands. I’ll leave that for others. Bon Jovi, though malignant, was big. Not to mention Loverboy.

I would say that more new sounds came off of Peter Gabriel’s Security (1983) than any other 1980s release. The Rhythym of the Heat drums have been copied and emulated ever since. The African influence continued to be a big part of 1980s music. Biko, earlier Gabriel, was very influential in this regard also.

Hey, we can’t leave out the early electro pioneers. In particular Kraftwerk and Ultravox. These guys set the standard for the minimalistic New Wave synthesizer sound.

Fish wrote:
“(Starting with The Who and their aborted Lifetouch album.)”

Lifehouse was the name of Pete’s project, later more fully realized in his multi-disc set, The Lifehouse Chronicles. The latest re-release of Who’s Next also documents the band performing the material live at the Young Vic, where Townshend had hoped to stage the film/concert project incorporating the members of the audience.

I agree with NoGoodNamesLeft. It’s all in the drums. Nothing says '80s like a big reverby drum beat - it was used in everything, from minimalist electro to big rock n roll.