That is funny because the internet says otherwise? It’s like bringing a cockroach into your house and saying Oh, It’s not that bad it’s just one itty bitty bug and then before you know it your house is infested.
Only the ignorant are afraid because they don’t understand. We are free and it is all we know so it easy to take for granted. Our country is doing something about this. We don’t want to end up like Britain. I know it is easy to get caught up in the mundane, I do it myself but there are some brave people fighting for our freedom while the rest of you are drinking the cool aide.
Today is Fathers Day in the US. My father fought for my countries freedom in the Korean war. My grandfathers brother is buried in France. We are still in two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Our hard earned money should not be going to fund the people our military are fighting against. One ex service man is suing the government over it. He just got back from Iraq only to find out our country is financing the enemy? I’d be ripped to.
If something doesn’t make sense investigate and find out the truth. I was feeling a little better until I talked to a connected friend who said a Saudi was trying to buy a computer hacking device. He decided to check the guy out and what do you know… He is a terrorist! He didn’t close the deal and deleted him. He also said there is no such thing as an Iraqi “multi cultural center”. It’s an oxymoron. Only their beliefs matter. If you are not Muslim your a target. So either convert as soon as possible but only if you are not gay. If your gay your dead. Does anyone really know what they are about?
We may be getting the Sharia compliant bank out of town soon to. I reside in the “Live Free or Die” state and we don’t tolerate loss of freedom well. It’s funny when people find out what is going on right under their noses they usually do the right thing. You are either part of the solution or your part of the problem. In England they didn’t know until it was too late. They like us are politically correct to the point of changing the law to suit a few. There is an Englishman on UTube with several video’s that are very amusing about what this has done to his country.
I know people are afraid of terrorists and don’t want to speak up but you have a duty to speak up. Talk to friends and people connected in your area about this issue. Stop making mundane arguments against all religions when the wolf is in the hen house.
Here is a very informative video that everyone that loves their country should watch. There are many more all over the net. If our own troops are suing the government there may be a problem.
I live in Tower Hamlets, the site of the supposed troubles. My mother grew up here and I spent some of my childhood here. I have also taught at secondary schools here and at EFL colleges in the areas. (ETA: I’m white British and so’s my daughter).
My daughter’s school this week, in their weekly newsletter, mentioned the ‘racial tensions’ in our area and warned us not to align with them. This was the first we’d heard of them. Yay publicity! The kids we know, of all backgrounds, were too obsessed with the World Cup to care about whatever those … who were they anyway? … were talking about.
I won’t say there aren’t any inter-racial problems round here, but, honestly, they’re mostly of the kind that boil down to ‘what TV shows do you watch?’ The kids’ gangs are inter-racial and are mostly about posturing and lack of space to hang around together after 9pm.
This entire post has got to be one of the most ignorant and misinformed pieces of tripe I’ve ever read: not to mention the atrocious spelling and grammar. Words fail me at the moment.
Are you kidding me? There are two possible retorts to this one. Shall we go for the more sensible 'I’m unsure why you would ask for experience from actual UK residents (although your request was obviously not in good faith) and then choose to ignore it in favour of ‘the internet’ '? Or how about the slightly ironic ‘I’m amused that you’ve chosen to favour something people on the internet have said, over … em… something people on the internet have said.’
Quoted for truth.
Do you know what? This isn’t worth my time. I found your entire post patronising, rude and offensive. Your general point seems to be that in the UK (or England, you don’t seem to be clear which you mean) we’re either too stupid or too afraid to notice that in fact we are oppressed and terrified by an insidious Muslim plague, and that it’s essentially too late to save us. In that case, you should probably retreat inside your LivingFreeorDying state and pay us no further mind. We’ll manage, honest.
Labelling ethnic groups you want to exterminate as ‘cockroaches’ isn’t very original.
“We began by saying that a cockroach cannot give birth to a butterfly. It is true. A cockroach gives birth to another cockroach…The history of Rwanda shows us clearly that a Tutsi stays always exactly the same, that he has never changed. The malice, the evil are just as we knew them in the history of our country. We are not wrong in saying that a cockroach gives birth to another cockroach”
“People are so bothered by the way we’re treating the Jews. They can’t understand it, because they are God’s creatures. But cockroaches are also God’s creatures, and we destroy them.”
The only thing I can say to this post (starting from this stunningly ignorant and bigoted beginning) is that there is no proper polite response.
Here, real short, my dear birdie, you know fuck all about the UK and Muslims, so perhaps you should stop spewing for not-so-innocent hate. You’ve got your own bloody country to write complete and utter ignorant and bigoted tripe about (e.g. the WTC item).
(Stunning, someone comparing immigrants to cockroaches…)
(And adding that again, “And me” to not a problem, other than curry burns my bottom and I should hate the Indo-Pak immigrants for addicting me to it).
I’ll third/fourth/fifth this. I live in an area of my city with a large Muslim population: Bangladesh and Pakistan-origin people, but with a smattering of North Africans. I have no problem at all, never have done*. In fact a couple of years ago some of my Muslim my neighbours, and representatives of the biggest synagogue in the city, plus representatives of the Catholic and other Christian churches, staged a religious unity march through the city, from the synagogue to the local mosque. This was the mosque that wanted to have a once-a-week call to prayer, but the local vicar objected.
I don’t doubt that there are a few radicals in that population, as are there BNP members scattered around my city too, but there are assholes everywhere. No invasion.
Aha, but I have just made the internet refute this. Therefore you must believe this bit of the internet not that.
How’s that performance art piece working out for you?
*In fact I do have an issue with one of my Muslim neighbours, in that one of his kids has installed a huge bass woofer in the trunk of his car and it stops me from having a lie-in on a Saturday morning. Oh, and I went into the local halal butcher and said “can I have two chicken legs?” and the little old man looked over the counter at my trousers and said “you already have two chicken legs sir!” then fell around laughing.
Me too. I come from Bolton, with a massive Asian population. There’s no problem between the communities, other than what BNP interlopers stir up. The overwhelming majority of Asians just want to work and make money.
Same here. Apparently where I live is the most religiously diverse bit of the UK, and in general we all seem to get along pretty well. I won’t say there are zero problems - I think, in any large group of individuals, there are going to be some racism issues or attacks. But they’re the work of individuals, not campaigns by communities, and as much a problem of all sides.
If you actually think (2) is a likely scenario, you probably ought to hand control of your personal finances, kids, and other chattels to somebody else.
It’s (1). The British Muslim community - even the radical portion - is generally very quiet. You’re more likely to hear extremist nonsense from white Britons than brown ones.
Exceptions are the occasional media-fueled heresy charge (Salman Rushdie, the Danish cartoonist fellow, etc.) and wars in which other Muslims are getting blown up for what appears to be no good reason.
Britain has a long, proud history of sheltering political radicals - Marx, et al - and recently that manifested in sheltering of Islamic fundamentalists. Obviously, that’s changed a bit since 9/11, but certainly people like Omar Bakri were around long enough to radicalize a few thousand people.
There is no polite way to respond to a post as ignorant as Perciful’s. How dare you spout your disgusting bigotry, your ignorance and your hate-fuelled genocidal *weirdness *about a country you clearly know nothing about? I hope you’ve never been here. We don’t want you.
What we want is people like my neighbours, who are first generation Muslims from East Africa and could not be nicer people. We want people like my students, who are mostly West African of various religious and ethnic backgrounds, who mostly work hard to free themselves from the abject circumstances of war, poverty and intolerance that led many of them to arrive in this country with nothing. We want people like me, whose ancestry in Britain can be traced back to the Norman Conquest along one line, but also includes immigrants and refugees right up to my grandfather, who arrived in this country with literally nothing but the clothes he stood up in. We want all these people, because they all accept each other and work to build a better life for themselves and their children in a free, equitable society. One in which people like you have no part, and can make no contribution: not because we wouldn’t welcome you if you chose to open your eyes, but because it is your choice to live your life blinkered by hatred and ignorance.
And now maybe I shall walk to the mosque, or maybe the church, which are equidistant from my front door and run a joint fund to take local children out of London on day trips; and I shall make a small donation in your name, Perciful. I’m not religious myself, but if I was I’d pray for you. How horrible it must be inside your head.
I think that depends where you live or more to the point, where the immigrants come from. From my experience, people immigrate in groups and seek their country of origin out. My city is getting an influx of people from Turkey in a neighborhood that was once a Hungarian enclave.
I’m a Londoner who lives in a very multi-cultural area (I think people of white British origin may be in the minority) and I have no problem with it. Well, Except for the fact that all the English butchers have been replaced with Halal butchers and I can’t get decent bloody pork anymore :rolleyes: But I also have access to excellent and cheap restaurants of many different cultures almost on my doorstep, so it’s a pretty good trade.
I’m not particularly happy with a large immigration of religous people into the country, but that’s because I’m opposed to religion in general rather than Islam in particular. And the fact is that in general religiosity (did I just make that up?) declines with every generation of decendants born here since the rest of our society is devotely secular (much more so than the US). There really isn’t anything to worry about, before long the decendants of Muslim’s will be binge drinking with the rest of us.
The problem has been blown out of all proportion by the BNP, the tabloid press and the fundamental minority on the otherside who love the attention. It’s true that there have been terrorist cells discovered since 7/7 but that is a small problem that is irrelvant to wider issue. Besides, we’re used to being blown up.
