Must you read/watch something to have an opinion about it?

That was not what I was suggesting. I said nothing about ‘punching’ in general. My point was that trans people are a less privileged or more vulnerable group, so if a comedian is targeting them in a way that is considered ‘punching’, then he must be ‘punching down’. I don’t think there is really a debate about this.

Warning for yet another insulting post outside of the Pit. You’ve been modnoted for this and still keep doing this. Stop attacking posters outside of the Pit. Next one will probably elevate to a Mod Loop discussion.

I think there is also phenomenon whereby if you think you will dislike a movie or book, it will become a self fulfilling prophecy when you finally do watch or read.

I haven’t read or watched 50 SoG myself. I expect I’ll hate it. On the other hand, there have been movies I was asked to watch that I was sure I wouldn’t like but did. The Wolf Of Snow Hollow springs to mind.

I am conflicted on this.

I do find it incredibly silly, for example, when people go on Rotten Tomatoes and rate a movie a 1 or a 10 before the movie has even come out. Equally annoying are people who try to answer questions about subjects about which they have little or no knowledge.

On the other hand, I don’t think I need to read the Minitour porn story to know I am not going to like it.

I don’t think you should vote on “rotten tomatoes” without having watched the movie. It ought to be “how did people who thought the premise was appealing enough to check it out feel about it”. Also, I’ve said before:

But a site like rotten tomatoes isn’t a discussion, it’s just a rating. And the rating is supposed to reflect the things you can only know by experiencing the work.

I always find it a bit odd when people speak positively about The Jungle by Sinclair Lewis without mentioning the incredibly racist section where Black workers get hired as scab labour; it makes me suspect that they have never read the whole book.

I have read the whole book, but i admit, i didn’t remember that part. I mostly followed the protagonist.

I was thinking about that book today. I don’t know if I noticed the racism or not, but if I did, I forgot about it. What I remember is Lewis driving a perfectly serviceable story off a cliff at the very end and it left me feeling pretty upset. He was already making his point with the story; there was no need to belabor it, to assassinate the protagonist’s character or regale me with a long-winded lecture about Marxism. That was 90% a great read and 10% I wanted to throw it through a window.

It is silly, especially with the preconceived notions– they may think, from a title or seeing some of the content, that it’ll automatically not be worth their time, so they preemptively trash it on RT.

I don’t think you should review something unless you’ve seen/read it, with the possible exception of rage quitting, but you should explain in the review that you rage quit.

Yeah I think that’s reasonable. But there is a difference between not writing a review about something and not having an opinion about it.

Again I’ve never read Mein Kampf or the Turner Diaries but I’m happy to have a negative opinion about them. Though I’d distinguish between having an opinion about the offensive content contained in a work, and the negative influence it’s had on society, and having an artistic opinion about the quality of the work. I understand Mein Kampf is terribly written and a crap book from a purely artistic point of view, but I’m not going to state that as a fact as I’ve never read it.