My Anti-Tailgating device works :)

The BBQ Pit
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In my experience, tailgaters don’t always pass. It’s been about 50/50 for me - sometimes I’ve had to move over to the left lane to let a tailgater go by because they just won’t pass. My tailgating happens almost exclusively in a city, also - they can’t always pass. But that doesn’t stop them from riding my ass for kilometers, endangering everyone along the way.

No, Boo Boo, I wasn’t reacting to your post. If everyone drove like you sound like you do, there wouldn’t be any reason to keep having driving pit theads. I don’t agree that 100% of road rage is ego, however. Some of it is just getting so damned fed up with everyone else getting away with such unbelievable shit. (Of course, that could just be from driving in Calgary, where there is almost no enforcement of traffic rules.)

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If by “bullheaded,” you mean sticking to my opinion in the face of underwhelming evidence, then yeah.

Anyway I note that you have a “history” of refusing to back up your claims. However, I do not jump into threads that you have posted in to warn folks about your conduct or to post links to previous threads you have participated in.

So here’s the deal: Quit freaking stalking me. Or I will complain to the mods. If the mods tell me that what you are doing is permissible, then I will respond in kind.

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You know why I slow down when someone is tailgating me? 1) Because I understand that they may not realize that they are tailgating and maybe slowing down a bit will get their attention…sometimes this works and sometimes it doesn’t. 2) Because when someone is riding my ass, slowing down is safer than continuing at the same speed or going faster. 3) I’m slowing down in the hopes that they’ll get the hint and pass me and if they don’t I’ll just pull over.

Lucwarm, why do you insist on assuming that because someone is slowing down that they are becoming aggressive and/or retaliating? I slow down for the reasons stated above and really have never had any thought about the other driver but “will you just pass me already?”. If I can pull over I will as I have stated already. In order to do that though I must slow down.

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How about this?

I don’t mind tailgaters that much, except the assholes in SUVs who insist on tailgating at night, with their brights right in my rearview mirror…

So my fantasy is to get a light set up so that when the subhuman SUV scum tailgates me, all I have to do is press a button on my dashboard and subhuman tailgater scum gets ONE MILLION CANDLEPOWER RIGHT IN THE FACE hehe.

Fuck the SUV vermin with their small penises!!!111

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So, I live in L.A…

But that aside, many of the tailgaters I encounter are on the 5 freeway between NoCal and SoCal (note to non-Californians: there’s a whole lot of nothing in between, unless you happen to be of the bovine persuasion). There are two lanes in each direction and an assload of big rigs. There is also more than a handful of tailgating asshats who think that 6 hours of straight road is carte blanche to go over 100. The speed limit varies between 65-75. That said, I go with the flow of traffic between 75-85. Now it just so happens that I’ll be in the left lane to pass 5 or 6 of these big rigs (in a row), and some mobile motherfucker will zoom up on my ass and stay there, less than two feet from my back bumper. Careful driver that I am, I do not take this well. My response is to tap my brake light briefly and give them a moment to back off (hey, sometimes it just takes a moment to change your speed and back off. Barring that, I take my foot off the gas for a couple seconds, then return to my original speed. If they maintain their hemhorroidal position, it’s open season on the asshat. Now, as I mentioned before, there are two lanes in each direction. There is no way to cross into oncoming traffic as the directions are separated by a rather wide patch of vegetation sporting a brutal ditch, one I wouldn’t want to tackle even in my SUV. Okay back to Morri vs the asshat: Asshat is still on my tail, has been given chances to show that it is not intentional, and has failed those tests. Ah, poor widdle asshat, as Morri happens to be passing big rigs :smiley: So, I sloooooow down, until I’m riding off the back corner of Mr. Slow Truck. Eventually, asshat will get frustrated and change lanes in hopes of an opening. Soon as he does, I pick up speed and ride off Mr. Slow Truck’s front bumper. Asshat will eventually get back into my lane. Here he has YET ANOTHER chance to stay off my ass. If he does, I’ll pedal it just enough to pass the slow truck and let the hemhorroid pass me. If he doesn’t… round 2. I’m usually too bored with the game to go on much longer than that, but my point has been made.

I keep meaning to get a license plate frame that says “I brake for tailgaters” then at least they can’t say I didn’t warn them.

Is it true there’s somewhere you can call to report reckless drivers? I saw two guys speeding and weaving across all lanes today on the 405. It looked like either they were racing or the guy in front was just a bigger asshat than the second guy b/c along with weaving in and out of the other cars dangerously, he was also moving to block the second car. I’d have liked to report them BOTH.

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Tor Johnson? Er … I know a Tor Johnson. Is the one you’re referencing possibly a really hairy guy in his early/mid 20s? The name is so rare (far asIi know, anyway) that I couldn’t help ask.

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Err, what makes you think I have assumed that? I don’t recall stating that slowing down necessarily means retaliation. (Although sometimes it does.) And for the record, I do not believe that slowing down necessarily means retaliation. Sometimes it does and sometimes it does not.

Anyway, I have a request for you: if you want to respond to a position you think I’ve taken, or a claim you think I’ve made, please use the quote feature. I’m asking nicely.

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I know where of Featherlou speaks. Calgary has to be the SUV/Pickup/smallest dick capital of Canada. You always get some asshat in a pickup behind you flying down icy roads right on your bumper. On two occasions I’ve had people tailgating me end up off the road when it was unsafe for them to even go at the speed I was travelling at. What were they planning on doing once they passed me? Go airborne?
(Hint: If you see Uzi driving his WRX on an icy road and you try to keep up with him in your pickup/SUV, or even more insane, you try to pass him, you will very likely end up in a ditch because you have seriously underestimated the road conditions.)

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Pro wrestler and actor in very very bad movies, most notably Plan Nine From Outer Space.

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Ah, geeze, Uzi, I wasn’t even thinking of the winter tailgating assholes. That’s a whole 'nother kind of stupid. Seriously underestimating road conditions is a very nice way of putting what they do. Either that or seriously overestimating what an SUV can do on ice. I’ve seen what SUVs do on ice. It’s quite poetic and graceful, the way they swoop around before shooting straight off the road.

And yes, I have heard that we’re the SUV capital of Canada (possibly even North America). Way too much disposable income here, I say.

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That’s not exactly what I had in mind. “Underwhelming” is a matter of opinion.

There’s a reason for that, it’s called taking Coldfire’s advice.

BTW: I’m not stalking you, I don’t go out of my way to find your posts. I do think you’ve established a bad reputation for yourself. Either deal with the results or find a way to change, your call.

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If coldfire really told you that it’s ok to characterize somebody’s posts but refuse to provide specific examples, then far be it from me to question his advice.

This is the second or third time you’ve posted in a thread in which I’ve posted for no other apparent purpose than to attack me. In each case you have provided links to the earlier thread.

It sure seems like stalking to me. But it doesn’t really matter. Because if you keep it up, I will ask the mods if what you are doing is permitted. If it is impermissible, I will complain and try to get you warned and/or banned. If it’s permissible, I will start to do it right back to you.

Sure, and the way I will deal with the “result” of you stalking me (or whatever it is you want to call it) is outlined above. It’s up to you to decide whether to continue to inflict your “results” on me. Your call.

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I was referring to not feeding you.

You really want to why I wouldn’t dig up specific examples? I’d have to link to every single one of your fucking posts in that thread! All of your posts there exhibit the same tendency, to varying degrees. I thought you’d be able to figure that out for yourself. Guess I was wrong.

My, aren’t we the paranoid one?

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Ummm, then it shouldn’t be too hard to come up with 2 or 3 decent examples. To quote a popular expression, put up or shut up. Although somehow I expect you will do neither.

Let’s see if I have this straight (1) you don’t deny that you have posted two or three times in threads I have posted to in order to attack me; (2) I point this out; and (3) that makes me paranoid?

Whatever.

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BTW: I can’t be the only one who finds your browbeating less than endearing.

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Simulpost.

You expect wrong. Just give me a few minutes, depending on how well the search function cooperates.

You’ll note that I didn’t say that I was only posting in order to attack you, either.

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Some of your worst behavior:
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And the capper: your complete exchange with alice.

Friends & neighbors, this is how lucwarm debates. He tries to browbeat his opponents into submission. As evidenced in that previous tailgaiting thread, when it doesn’t work it’s downright messy.

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I’ll be surprised if he comes back with anything other than a flat-out denial.

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Goody goody.

And just so we’re clear, your claim is that I “use my opinion like a club,” and that I “repeatedly disregard subsequent statements because they go against [my] precious opinion”

So what? How does this mean I’m being paranoid?

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Ok, let’s look at the first post you cite:

Bobkitty: No, because there’s another lane. Much like the dumbass tailgater could have simply crossed over into the oncoming traffic lane when it was empty, people tend to have an amazing capacity to figure out “Hmmm… there’s someone broken down in my lane, I’ll slow down and pass when it’s safe.”

Lucwarm: Right, so all the OP had to do was pull as far to the right as possible and come to a dead stop. Tailgater passes him, end of story.

[a fairly innocuous rebuttal, IMHO. Not particularly special or out-of-line]

Bobkitty: CR 49 in eastern Alabama.

Lucwarm: Kindly describe the location of the 6 miles where it’s impossible for someone to allow a following car to pass.

[A polite request that the poster back up his claim]

Bobkitty: Do you live anywhere near farmland? Or cattle ranches? The ditch is for either irrigation/drainage or to keep the cows from simply wandering around the road (looks something like road–>ditch–>fence–>cows).

Lucwarm: I’ve lived all over the United States. Farmland, desert, urban areas, etc. I have yet to see a stretch of road more than a mile long where it’s impossible to allow a car following you to pass you. The only possible exception I can think of is the center tube of the Lincoln Tunnel which connects New York City and Weehawken, New Jersey.

[another innocuous rebuttal, certainly no worse than the statement being responded to]

Bobkitty: And FTR, my nearest neighbor to the left is exactly 1.8 miles away. Nowhere to pull over, which makes giving directions a snap- just drive until you can turn right. I think that you’re assuming Windwalker and I are talking about regular city or town-type roads, and aren’t taking into account that some people live on the back side of the middle of nowhere.

Lucwarm: Actually there’s no need to debate the nature of the roads any more if you concede that the OP could have allowed the tailgater to pass.

And for the record, I could have been a little clearer when I said there’s alway a place to pull over. I’m not trying to say that you can always get totally clear of the road. I am saying that you can always allow the guy behind you to pass.

[another innocuous rebuttal; and a polite concession that an earlier post may have been unclear]

So what do we have? A few innocuous rebuttals, a polite request that the poster back up his claim, and a concession that an earlier post could have been clearer.

Significantly, in your very example, I make a clear concession. Moreover, I didn’t personally attack the guy or misrepresent his position as far as I know.

Sorry, but these debate tactics are no worse than, and possibly even better than what goes on in the Pit (and Great Debates for that matter) on a regular basis. Just MHO of course.