Yep. And getting off pot won’t kill you - there isn’t the physical addiction - even of nicotine (which won’t kill you, but is a bear to give up) or caffeine. But that doesn’t mean people don’t get addicted to weed and because of their addiction, end up making lousy life choices. Or that people don’t sometimes need help kicking their habit.
Another lesson is that companies shouldn’t have only ONE sugar-daddy client that has life or death power over them. I’ve seen that before and it’s a sucky business model that creates a paranoid, dysfunctional work environment even if business is steady.
Is Basil sneaking into the house to eat your skunk?
I didn’t mean to imply that, especially since I’m sure that some habitual pot users (people who have to get high every day, and will spend the rent on weed, as opposed to people who get high at parties, if someone offers it), really need to be on prescription drugs. They could have anxiety disorders, depression, insomnia, or several other problems for which there are meds that target the symptoms more accurately with fewer extraneous effects (ie, you can safely operate a motor vehicle), and side effects, not to mention the delivery system isn’t almost as bad for you as cigarettes.
I even heard that pot can help some problems like IBS, but there are much better drugs for it; however, people who use pot and happen to have IBS can get stomachaches if they quit that can make them think they are experiencing some kind of withdrawal. It’s kind of similar to the “caffeine withdrawal headaches.” Caffeine treats headaches, and some people who would otherwise be getting frequent headaches don’t get them when they drink a lot of coffee. They quit coffee, and get headaches, and think they have some kind of withdrawal. At least, according to my doctor, who says I should take a 1/4 of a No-Doz with my Imitrex, and that way I can take a 50mg instead of a 100mg, with the same effectiveness. It works.
Withdrawal from heroin won’t kill you, even if you may wish you were dead.
Hmmm…going to have to disagree with your doctor. Caffeine withdrawal headaches seem pretty well established as a common enough syndrome that it seems unlikely it is just taking away something that was masking headaches.
The reason I key on this topic is because I suffered through that bit of unpleasantness when I was unexpectedly hospitalized with a stomach ailment and was unable to ingest anything for several days ( IV only, no food or drink ). It was the classic 48 hours of headache hell. Almost worse than the stomach pain I was suffering. After those couple of days no more headaches and I remained caffeine-free for about a year afterwards with no headaches. And I never suffered headaches much before I started drinking caffeinated beverages regularly.
I’m stubbornly chalking it up to that caffeine withdrawl :).
Wow. I’m sorry to hear that. The unfairness of that situation rankles. I hope things work out for you.
Good luck on your job search.
So there is a god.
This is out of line, PlainJain. Whatever beefs you may have with TrueCelt, this is not the place to air them.
If you’re really that upset at her for something, take it to the Pit.
Whoa whoa whoa…
Are you saying that if you’d have let well enough alone, you’d all still be employed and business as usual (with perhaps an employee who smells sorta like skunk or something)?
But it wasn’t “well enough”. She had a contractual obligation to follow up on suspicions, and apparently this person was using, which was firmly against federal law. If the person had been caught through a truly random screen and it came to light that the OP suspected, there could have been consequences for the whole team.
Whomever leaked the info to the client is to blame, not the OP who was required to do what she did. The OP is not the bad guy here. It was the worker who knowingly broke the rules he agreed to and put the OP in this position.
I doubt she had contractual obligations to follow up on suspicions alone. Even if she did, a skunky smell falls far short of a reasonable suspicion.
For the rest, neither you or the OP knows that the person in question was using.
Fair enough. Then the blame lies on whomever had the “dirty test” and got caught in a random drug test, and the OP is even more the victim since her actions were then truly irrelevant.
This is and still remains heresay to the person in question (and on rather thin, circumstantial ground at that). And while I understand TruCelt, as the employer, has a responsibility to her employees, this whole mess just screams more like a busy body looking for a windmill to tilt at and destroy. :dubious:
Well, since neither one of us has seen her job description or contract, I’m going to take her at her word that she has to follow up, as she stated in her OP. I don’t have reason to doubt her and it actually reads true to me (there are plenty of jobs that require employees/supervisors to report suspicions of illicit behavior). Of course, YMMV.
But this hasn’t been confirmed, only concluded by the most biased source:
She said they were told they had a dirty test, and she concludes it was the employee in question. That can certainly be a false conclusion. But I’m responding the comments that are assuming she’s right- comments like “if you’d left well enough alone you’d be ok” and “there is a god”. If it wasn’t that employee and/or that’s not the reason she was laid off, then what was the point of those comments?
I don’t either, but something just doesn’t ring with pure motives here. More a gut feeling and a bit of common sense. I mean, the entire fiasco was grounded on nothing more than “He/she smells funny… Drug usage!”
And sure, even if she was correct, she certainly made the argument that any drug users in the company would be catastrophic to their client/gov’t contract. Why shine an unholy spotlight on it, when it wasn’t like she found a pipe on her desk, or a bong in her car.
It was a skunk smell. Could’ve been, y’know… a skunk.
I don’t speak for PlainJain, but mine comes from life experience: Don’t stir up shit. It gets on everybody, including yourself.
True, but in my professional experience looking the other way, especially when it’s part of your job to not, can cause just as many problems.
So either way it’s a judgement call. People may agree or disagree in this particular situation, but looking the other way is not always the best choice.